1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:17,109 [Music] 2 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:18,390 and good afternoon 3 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:21,119 frank here with yet another edition of 4 00:00:25,349 --> 00:00:23,199 ufo news network sunday 5 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:25,359 uh we've got a lot of news to cover it's 6 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:26,800 uh things have really picked up a little 7 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:27,279 bit 8 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:29,920 rather surprising but always good to see 9 00:00:32,709 --> 00:00:30,400 so 10 00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:32,719 we've got a lot of news to cover let me 11 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:33,680 not waste 12 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:36,559 any time and bring in my co-host as 13 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,600 always the one 14 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:40,079 the only chant hannah chan how are you 15 00:00:44,069 --> 00:00:41,440 today 16 00:00:45,029 --> 00:00:44,079 i'm just prepared to have a good time 17 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:45,039 and argue with you 18 00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:47,600 also frank as per usual sounds good 19 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:48,239 sounds good 20 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:50,000 well uh you've been following uh just 21 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:51,520 like i have we've been passing some 22 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:53,039 notes back and forth 23 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,320 and uh last week the former 24 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:58,800 uh director of national intelligence 25 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:00,079 john ratcliffe 26 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:03,120 appeared on fox news with 27 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:05,760 maria bartoromo and had some very 28 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:08,080 interesting comments about ufos 29 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:10,799 which kicked off a little bit of a a 30 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:12,000 little bit of a flap 31 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:14,560 regarding ufo news uh this is rather 32 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:16,479 interesting uh ratcliffe made 33 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:19,680 some uh very interesting claims about 34 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:21,840 the the nature of the evidence that 35 00:01:25,830 --> 00:01:24,159 they have gathered over there uh in the 36 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,840 intelligence community and in the 37 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:26,799 pentagon 38 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:28,880 and let's uh let's not waste any time 39 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:31,600 and get to what ratcliffe had to say 40 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:34,720 on the uh maria bartoromo show hang on a 41 00:01:39,990 --> 00:01:36,799 second here we go 42 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:40,000 john you've seen in your role the most 43 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:42,240 intelligence that anybody has seen other 44 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:43,439 than the president 45 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:45,439 as the director of national intelligence 46 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:46,880 and i've been wanting to ask you this 47 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:48,640 next question for a while 48 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:51,200 i want to ask you about ufos 49 00:01:56,230 --> 00:01:52,320 unidentified 50 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:56,240 flying objects the the pentagon is going 51 00:02:00,870 --> 00:01:57,600 to come out with a report 52 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:00,880 by june 1st and in the 2.3 trillion 53 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:02,960 omnibus appropriations legislation 54 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:04,479 passed in january 55 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:06,320 it includes the intelligence 56 00:02:09,749 --> 00:02:07,600 authorization act 57 00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:09,759 money for the pentagon to continue 58 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:10,879 investigating 59 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:13,840 ufos john we're going to get this report 60 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:14,800 june 1st 61 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:18,000 can you tell us have unidentified 62 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:22,160 flying objects been seen 63 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:24,959 well sure we we have uh lots of reports 64 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:25,360 about 65 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,760 what we call uh unidentified aerial 66 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:30,000 phenomenon and this actually 67 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:31,599 is a program that's been in place for a 68 00:02:34,790 --> 00:02:33,760 few years in terms of a task force that 69 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:34,800 that has been 70 00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:36,319 there under the national defense 71 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:38,000 authorization act but as you correctly 72 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:39,040 point out maria 73 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:41,040 there's now a report that will be issued 74 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:42,800 by the by the pentagon 75 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:44,480 uh by the secretary of defense and the 76 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:46,080 director of national intelligence i 77 00:02:49,509 --> 00:02:47,680 actually wanted to get this information 78 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:49,519 out and declassified before i left 79 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,400 office but 80 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:52,560 we weren't able to get it down into an 81 00:02:56,070 --> 00:02:53,920 unclassified 82 00:02:57,509 --> 00:02:56,080 format that we could talk about quickly 83 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:57,519 enough but but frankly there are a lot 84 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:58,480 more sightings than 85 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:00,319 have been made public some of those have 86 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:02,000 been declassified when we talk about 87 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:03,519 sightings we're talking about objects 88 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,000 that have been 89 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:06,800 seen by navy or air force pilots or have 90 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:09,200 been picked up by satellite imagery 91 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,239 that frankly engage in 92 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:14,400 actions that are difficult to explain 93 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:15,360 that 94 00:03:21,509 --> 00:03:20,879 technology for or traveling at speeds 95 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:21,519 that 96 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:23,120 you know exceed the sound barrier 97 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:24,879 without a sonic boom so 98 00:03:28,229 --> 00:03:27,760 in short um things that we are observing 99 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:28,239 that are 100 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:31,519 difficult to explain um and so 101 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:33,440 uh you know there's actually quite a few 102 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:34,799 of those and i think that that 103 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:36,480 information is being gathered and will 104 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:37,680 will be put out 105 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,360 um in a way that the american people can 106 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:41,280 see we always when we when we see these 107 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:43,120 things marie we always look for a 108 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:44,799 plausible explanation 109 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:47,120 you know weather can cause disturbances 110 00:03:50,309 --> 00:03:48,640 visual disturbances 111 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:50,319 sometimes we wonder whether or not our 112 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,799 adversaries have technologies 113 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:54,159 that are a little bit further down the 114 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,480 road than we thought or that we realized 115 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:58,720 but there are instances where we don't 116 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:00,480 have good explanations for some of the 117 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:02,080 things that we've seen 118 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:04,319 and you know when that information 119 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:05,920 becomes declassified i'll be able to 120 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,589 can you tell us where it was seen 121 00:04:16,629 --> 00:04:14,869 actually all over the world there have 122 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:16,639 been sightings all over the world and 123 00:04:19,830 --> 00:04:18,160 and when we talk about sightings the 124 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:19,840 other thing i will tell you is um 125 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:22,160 it's not just a pilot or just a 126 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:23,360 satellite or some 127 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:26,800 um intelligence collection usually we 128 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:27,199 have 129 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:29,120 multiple sensors that are picking up 130 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:30,560 these things and 131 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:32,639 so uh you know again some of this are 132 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:35,919 just their unexplained phenomenon 133 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:38,880 and there's actually quite a few more 134 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,880 than have been made public so 135 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:42,720 i think it'll be healthy for as much of 136 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:44,160 this information to get out there as 137 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:45,040 possible 138 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:47,520 um so that the american people can see 139 00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:48,720 some of the things that 140 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:51,919 that we've been dealing with okay 141 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:55,040 well that that is pretty extraordinary 142 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:56,000 we so appreciate 143 00:05:00,710 --> 00:04:57,919 that that you're talking to us about 144 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:00,720 this can this year get any weirder 145 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:04,240 pandemic shutdown ufos john radcliffe 146 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:09,670 a really interesting interview and as 147 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:11,120 far as i know 148 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:13,120 he would be the highest ranking 149 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:15,759 individual uh 150 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:19,199 who is talked in some detail about what 151 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:20,320 they have available 152 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:22,320 as far as the multiple sensors and all 153 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:25,120 that goes uh if it's happened before 154 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:26,960 it's been a long time since it's 155 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:27,680 happened 156 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:30,800 so obviously we like this information 157 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:33,440 getting out he was talking about wanting 158 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:34,080 to get 159 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:37,280 this out before he left office obviously 160 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:39,520 you know he had to go after the election 161 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:40,560 results 162 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:43,120 but uh you know i like this uh 163 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:44,000 information 164 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:46,160 and it seems that they do have a lot 165 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:48,000 there no reason to think that they don't 166 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:49,919 again not talking about the multiple 167 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:52,000 sensors ratcliffs is a 168 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:54,639 name that has not really come up uh in 169 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:56,240 our talking about the different people 170 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:57,280 who are involved 171 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:59,440 over at the the defense department i 172 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:00,639 think it uh one 173 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:02,880 real quick thing that i want to mention 174 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:04,160 is that the 175 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:07,120 director of national intelligence it was 176 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:09,120 basically a position that was created 177 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:10,800 after september 11th 178 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:13,120 you had a lot of different intelligence 179 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,400 organizations uh 180 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:16,240 sometimes military sometimes law 181 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:18,560 enforcement uh sometimes uh 182 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:21,600 you know espionage related and that 183 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:23,360 they've all got their their own little 184 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:25,199 fiefdoms and they they don't often 185 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:25,919 coordinate 186 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:29,759 uh one of the criticisms of the position 187 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:30,960 as it was laid out 188 00:06:34,150 --> 00:06:33,280 and i think this is pretty important was 189 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:34,160 that 190 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:37,440 what is uh not under the auspices of 191 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:39,120 this particular office 192 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,840 includes the uh the department of 193 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:43,680 defense in charge of 194 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:46,000 uh national security agency national 195 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,440 reconnaissance office 196 00:06:53,589 --> 00:06:50,479 national geospatial intelligence agency 197 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:53,599 those would still be over at the the 198 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:56,000 pentagon and run through there 199 00:07:01,909 --> 00:06:59,120 but again interesting stuff 200 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:01,919 and also it indicates uh based on what 201 00:07:05,830 --> 00:07:03,599 he's saying that he's uh received 202 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:05,840 briefings on that this kind of material 203 00:07:09,749 --> 00:07:08,240 so uh this uh this is a big win it 204 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,759 kicked off a lot of very interesting 205 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:11,759 news uh uh chant your thoughts on all 206 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:16,870 um i actually would like to hear more 207 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,440 clips 208 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,680 that you plan on playing in order to 209 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:21,919 just discuss more on this topic 210 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:24,240 okay yeah yeah i'd love to say i just 211 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:25,120 would like to hear 212 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:27,440 more okay okay well we have more more we 213 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:29,120 do have hang on a sec let me 214 00:07:32,309 --> 00:07:30,800 move forward a little bit here with our 215 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:32,319 graphics and uh 216 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:34,960 as a result of the attention that this 217 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:35,840 particular 218 00:07:42,309 --> 00:07:39,120 interview got uh marco rubio was in the 219 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:42,319 reagan airport in washington and i guess 220 00:07:50,710 --> 00:07:42,720 a 221 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:50,720 they'll dip into politics when 222 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:52,160 politicians are doing 223 00:07:57,909 --> 00:07:55,680 uh maybe some gossip related things but 224 00:08:00,070 --> 00:07:57,919 i guess a stringer for tmz happened to 225 00:08:01,189 --> 00:08:00,080 see uh rubio in the airport and he 226 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:01,199 pinned him down 227 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:04,720 and uh he asked rubio about the same 228 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:08,000 issue so let's pull that up here 229 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:10,479 what do we got oh there we go okay let's 230 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:11,520 pull that up 231 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:17,360 and go with rubio's comments 232 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,309 rather slowly 233 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:31,189 he decides to die oh you know what then 234 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:32,640 we're going to have to sit through a 30 235 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:34,479 second commercial here 236 00:08:38,709 --> 00:08:36,640 before we get to the uh the rubio video 237 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:38,719 but yeah rubio is of course 238 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:41,519 on the uh had been the the chairman of 239 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:42,000 the 240 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:43,440 senate uh select committee on 241 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:45,279 intelligence and that 242 00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:47,360 is the senate committee that 243 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:48,560 requisitioned 244 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:51,760 this report on the ufos so he has 245 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:52,480 publicly 246 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:54,480 made some comments on a couple of 247 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:56,240 occasions and 248 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:59,519 now the stringer for tmz uh tracked him 249 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:00,720 down at the airport 250 00:09:11,110 --> 00:09:04,080 and was able to ask him about it as well 251 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:12,630 you're on that senate intel committee 252 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:14,800 man i i saw you guys are supposed 253 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:16,000 they're supposed to be the government is 254 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:17,680 going to actually have to put out 255 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:19,360 everything they know about ufos to the 256 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:21,120 public i guess it's not 257 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:22,480 well for me the whole thing was this and 258 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:23,760 that's why we put that language in there 259 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:24,240 and then 260 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:25,760 people think about space aliens for me 261 00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:27,279 is there's stuff flying over 262 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:29,519 military installations and no one knows 263 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:31,440 what it is and it isn't ours 264 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:32,880 so for me that's logical you want to 265 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:34,240 know what it is and that's common sense 266 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:34,880 right stuff's 267 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,160 flying over the top of your most 268 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:38,160 sensitive installations and it's not 269 00:09:41,269 --> 00:09:39,839 ours and no one knows whose it is 270 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:41,279 you should find out what it is and tell 271 00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:42,959 us i mean are we going to get like the 272 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:45,519 friendly aliens you think if you think 273 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:46,399 honestly 274 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:48,080 should people be worried i mean i guess 275 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:49,200 that's the better question i think the 276 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:50,800 worry is there's stuff flying over our 277 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:51,920 facilities and we don't know what they 278 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:53,279 are you know what i mean so i mean 279 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:53,760 that's the 280 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:55,839 concern maybe maybe it's got a logical 281 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:57,519 explanation to it but 282 00:10:00,070 --> 00:09:58,720 you know people want to know i want to 283 00:10:01,350 --> 00:10:00,080 know what it is i mean who's a bigger 284 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:01,360 threat right now do you think i mean 285 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:02,240 people are always talking about like 286 00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:03,839 china's a big threat but shouldn't we be 287 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:04,959 also be worried about what the 288 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:06,720 what's else out in the universe i 289 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:08,320 wouldn't take it one step at a time you 290 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:09,600 know what i mean i mean i'm not i'm not 291 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:10,959 saying that's what it's all about 292 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:12,240 like i told you i don't know i don't 293 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:13,600 know the answer to what it is but it's 294 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:14,480 stuff that's there 295 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:16,160 and people so you're on an intel 296 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:17,200 committee they don't even tell you 297 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:18,640 what's going on well i think they tell 298 00:10:21,269 --> 00:10:19,920 us what's going on i mean there's stuff 299 00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:21,279 lying over the top of our military 300 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:22,320 installations and they don't know who's 301 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:23,440 flying it they don't even know what it 302 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:24,079 is 303 00:10:27,190 --> 00:10:26,240 um so that's a problem we need to find 304 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:27,200 out if we can 305 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:29,120 so just a quick question everyone thinks 306 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:30,480 you know we're the smartest 307 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:31,920 out there in the universe but are the 308 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:33,519 aliens possibly smarter than what we are 309 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:34,800 right now is it 310 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:36,320 uh well they made it all the way here 311 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:37,839 they probably are yeah probably more 312 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:39,200 advanced they can get here and we can't 313 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:40,320 get there that tells you they're 314 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:42,000 more advanced but i don't know there are 315 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:43,440 aliens i don't know they've ever visited 316 00:10:46,389 --> 00:10:44,720 here i'm not you know when you talk 317 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:46,399 about that stuff everybody gets 318 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:49,200 uh you know stigmatized about it or no 319 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:50,560 one wants to sound weird 320 00:10:54,150 --> 00:10:52,800 my thing is very simple we don't know 321 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:54,160 what that stuff is that's flying over 322 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:55,760 the top of our installations let's find 323 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:57,120 out maybe it's another country and that 324 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:58,160 would be bad news too 325 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:59,519 but let's just say hypothetically one 326 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:01,360 last question man 327 00:11:04,870 --> 00:11:03,760 hypothetically if somebody comes down 328 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:04,880 there's aliens 329 00:11:07,990 --> 00:11:06,640 should should biden and should the 330 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:08,000 government should we try to be friendly 331 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:09,360 with these folks or should we look at it 332 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:10,560 i haven't think given this we have so 333 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:11,839 many problems going on as it is that 334 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:13,279 would be that would be one heck of a way 335 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:15,170 to top the last year and a half 336 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:16,640 [Music] 337 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:19,680 so uh there is rubio's comment there 338 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:22,399 that also i got quite a bit of attention 339 00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:22,800 and 340 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:26,800 apparently bartoromo over on fox 341 00:11:30,710 --> 00:11:29,760 decided to follow him and get even more 342 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:30,720 comment from him 343 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:39,190 radcliffe with me last week i've got to 344 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:43,600 get your reaction to what's taking place 345 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:47,040 have unidentified flying objects 346 00:11:54,829 --> 00:11:50,560 been seen well sure 347 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:54,839 we have lots of reports about what we 348 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:57,440 call call 349 00:12:01,269 --> 00:11:59,600 unidentified aerial phenomenon there are 350 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:01,279 a lot more sightings 351 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,880 have been made public sometimes we 352 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,720 wonder whether or not our adversaries 353 00:12:07,910 --> 00:12:06,480 have technologies 354 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:07,920 that are a little bit further down the 355 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:14,550 so senator what about that what can you 356 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:17,760 tell us about ufos 357 00:12:22,389 --> 00:12:20,160 well we have things flying over military 358 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:22,399 installations over military exercises 359 00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:23,200 and other places 360 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:24,560 and we don't know what it is it isn't 361 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:26,480 ours it isn't anything that's registered 362 00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:27,680 with the faa 363 00:12:31,269 --> 00:12:29,680 and in many cases exhibits attributes of 364 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:31,279 things we've never seen 365 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,880 technology the kinds of technology we 366 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:34,320 haven't seen before or at least that's 367 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:35,519 what it seems like 368 00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:36,959 i think you have to know what it is or 369 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:38,639 we have to try to know what it is 370 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:40,000 that's my view of it without any 371 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:41,279 preconceived notions maybe there's a 372 00:12:44,629 --> 00:12:42,720 logical explanation 373 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:44,639 uh maybe it's a you know something that 374 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:46,000 can be explained away 375 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:47,920 uh maybe it's a foreign adversary who's 376 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:49,519 made a technological leap as you heard 377 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:50,800 the former dna said 378 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:52,000 whatever it is we need to know the 379 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:53,600 answer to it the problem with this issue 380 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:55,040 is every time you raise it people get 381 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:55,519 all 382 00:12:59,030 --> 00:12:57,279 you know nervous or does this mean ufos 383 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:59,040 and aliens an extraterrestrial 384 00:13:02,389 --> 00:13:00,560 we don't have to go that far it's very 385 00:13:05,110 --> 00:13:02,399 simple there are things flying 386 00:13:06,230 --> 00:13:05,120 over national security installations we 387 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:06,240 don't know who they are 388 00:13:09,150 --> 00:13:08,320 don't know what it is it isn't ours we 389 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:09,160 need to find out 390 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:11,200 [Music] 391 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:13,519 well this is absolutely fascinating so i 392 00:13:17,509 --> 00:13:15,440 mean from from my standpoint when i 393 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:17,519 heard john ratcliffe talk about that 394 00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:19,920 i went and i looked up what you've said 395 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:22,399 about the pentagon report coming up 396 00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:24,079 june 1st what do you think we're going 397 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:25,839 to learn from that pentagon report on 398 00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:27,519 june 1st 399 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:28,639 well first i'm not sure they're going to 400 00:13:31,509 --> 00:13:30,000 come in on time to be honest with you 401 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:31,519 because they miss a lot of deadlines in 402 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,720 government on these sorts of things but 403 00:13:35,829 --> 00:13:34,399 we'll get a report at some point 404 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:35,839 second is i don't know if we're going to 405 00:13:39,189 --> 00:13:37,680 know what what i mean i'm not sure that 406 00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:39,199 by june 1st i'll have reached a hard 407 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:40,480 conclusion about what they're dealing 408 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:42,160 with and there may be more questions or 409 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:43,279 new questions 410 00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:45,680 than full answers after the fact i can 411 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:47,199 tell you it's being taken more seriously 412 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:48,560 now than it ever has been 413 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:50,160 and look there's a stigma associated 414 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:52,320 with this all right when a navy pilot 415 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:54,000 would report that they saw something 416 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:55,279 they were told you need to go see the 417 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:57,440 flight surgeon you know so 418 00:14:00,389 --> 00:13:58,800 to check out your head you know make 419 00:14:02,389 --> 00:14:00,399 sure you're not seeing things so there's 420 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:02,399 a stigma associated with reporting it 421 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:04,160 even talking to you about it now right i 422 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:05,040 mean people are going to go out and say 423 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:06,320 look what these people are focused on 424 00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:07,760 when the world is falling apart so 425 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:09,279 there's a there's a stigma associated 426 00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:11,040 with it and that's i think needs to go 427 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:11,680 away 428 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:13,279 we don't have any preconceived notions 429 00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:14,720 about what this is or isn't 430 00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:16,320 we just need to know or we need to start 431 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,839 we need to start trying to know 432 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,760 i think the first step is to ask the 433 00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:21,040 question if you don't ask the question 434 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:22,320 you're not going to get or begin to get 435 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:24,399 answers 436 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:26,399 so it's not necessarily like that we 437 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,880 have you know little ets running around 438 00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:31,199 aliens but it could be technology that 439 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:32,399 china or russia 440 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:34,560 or somebody else has developed that 441 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:36,320 could be ahead of the united states then 442 00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:37,760 that's even more worrying 443 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:40,079 worrisome to me again i don't know it 444 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:41,440 would be very worrisome i don't know 445 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:42,800 that to be the case but we need to start 446 00:14:47,269 --> 00:14:45,760 finding out 447 00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:47,279 senator it's great to see you this 448 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:48,959 morning and so uh there's 449 00:14:53,110 --> 00:14:51,600 that a couple of uh different interviews 450 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:53,120 with marco rubio 451 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:55,920 and basically saying the same thing in 452 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,440 both he's concerned about it 453 00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,680 he does bring up when he's talking on 454 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:01,839 fox a little bit more about the stigma 455 00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:04,160 he doesn't there they still don't want 456 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,279 to go over there 457 00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:06,800 but i think at some point you've got to 458 00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:08,720 go and uh 459 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:12,079 go back to sort of what michi okaku said 460 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:14,480 prove that they're not from another 461 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:15,360 planet 462 00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:17,760 and uh at least uh consider this as a 463 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:19,279 possibility obviously 464 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:21,519 uh we think that's what it is at least 465 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:22,800 some of these cases 466 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:24,959 and you know that that's where it's at 467 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:26,160 right now and those are the 468 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:28,399 uh the full interviews with those 469 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:29,360 particular people 470 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:30,959 uh chant yeah you've heard what they had 471 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:33,600 to say uh what do you think 472 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,279 well i just have some general things 473 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:37,199 just to say 474 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:40,720 and um for example rubel rubio when he 475 00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:43,600 was speaking to tmz 476 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:46,720 he was postulating a very 477 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:50,160 simple idea and that is we don't know 478 00:15:54,629 --> 00:15:52,000 this is a quote of his we don't know 479 00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:54,639 what's flying above our military basis 480 00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:56,720 or our not so friendly skies for that 481 00:16:02,790 --> 00:15:59,519 matter and his colleagues 482 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:02,800 on the senate committee of intelligence 483 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:06,079 this article i was reading stated 484 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:07,920 that they would need to figure it out 485 00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:09,600 too because maybe it's another country 486 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:11,120 and that would be bad news 487 00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:14,800 so my the point i wanted to make is 488 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:16,880 if there's a technological leap 489 00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:19,360 regarding another country 490 00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:23,040 we're talking about crafts that invade 491 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,720 or trespass through any kind of 492 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:28,240 sensitive 493 00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:31,440 military controlled ranges or designated 494 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:33,759 airspaces 495 00:16:41,110 --> 00:16:38,000 or classified areas top-secret areas 496 00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:41,120 our military-related equipment and i 497 00:16:43,590 --> 00:16:41,360 would 498 00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,600 also like to include not just our 499 00:16:47,430 --> 00:16:45,199 military-related equipment 500 00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:47,440 but canadian english or even other 501 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,320 countries 502 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:49,680 with highly developed military 503 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:51,440 industrial complexes 504 00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:54,480 their military related equipment i'm 505 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:55,360 going to assume 506 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,120 cannot track these uaps 507 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:01,839 and if you cannot track a uap invading 508 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:04,240 the area of navy strike groups 509 00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:05,919 and other secretive and classified 510 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:09,199 military formations and facilities 511 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:13,280 then i would just say forget about 512 00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:17,360 the stigma of talking about the ufo 513 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:19,120 topic because we keep hearing people 514 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:20,720 mock it 515 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,039 we have to recognize that the impossible 516 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:25,679 is possibly happening 517 00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:28,640 and that might be possible today 518 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:29,360 although 519 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:31,440 rubio seems pretty adamant he's saying 520 00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:32,799 uh it's not ours 521 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,240 you know it's definitely not u.s 522 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:36,480 military he's uh he's saying that uh 523 00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:37,600 pretty well outright 524 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:40,400 in his comments so well is it that some 525 00:17:43,750 --> 00:17:41,600 foreign adversary well 526 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:43,760 okay that's a possibility but what 527 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,200 they're not talking about 528 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:47,440 neither radcliff nor rubio brought up 529 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:48,240 the fact 530 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,600 that we've had these kind of reports 531 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:53,200 with the same kind of flight 532 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:56,000 characteristics 533 00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,440 hypersonic speeds maneuverability 534 00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:01,120 being able to make right angle turns at 535 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:02,799 hypersonic speeds 536 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:05,280 uh going straight up going straight down 537 00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:07,200 at extraordinary speeds 538 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:09,919 uh being there suddenly and then uh you 539 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:10,240 know 540 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:13,120 as soon as maybe a jet is scrambled and 541 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,760 goes out for a taker a closer look 542 00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:17,760 it gets out of there again at the the 543 00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:19,200 hypersonic speeds 544 00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:22,080 and those kinds of cases that kind of 545 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:23,039 behavior 546 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,840 has been witnessed and documented and 547 00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:26,880 recorded through 548 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:29,840 radar which is uh the the kind of 549 00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:31,360 censoring 550 00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:32,640 equipment that they're talking about 551 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:34,080 here although they're not specifically 552 00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,640 saying it 553 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:37,039 but it's radar i mean among others but 554 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:38,480 radar is certainly one of them 555 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,520 and they've been going back for 75 years 556 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:43,600 where we can say with a lot more 557 00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:45,760 confidence that yeah at that point of 558 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:46,799 time 559 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:50,160 nobody had gear that could do aircraft 560 00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:50,720 that could 561 00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:53,120 perform those kinds of maneuvers and 562 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:56,160 also where radcliffe had mentioned 563 00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:58,240 getting uh the satellite information and 564 00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,440 that type of thing 565 00:19:03,669 --> 00:19:01,600 uh you know because obviously we've got 566 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,679 stuff looking down from space 567 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,679 we've got radar that can track up to 568 00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:07,360 very high altitudes 569 00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,919 so we've got this and another thing that 570 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:10,880 they're not saying 571 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:13,600 is that this is physical evidence if 572 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,080 just 573 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:17,120 as a way of comparing uh do we have any 574 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,640 physical evidence that there are 575 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,640 exoplanets i want to be clear here and i 576 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:22,640 think we've discovered exoplanets but we 577 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:24,720 don't have a rock from these exoplanets 578 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:25,760 so we don't have 579 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,400 a sample of a gas in the atmosphere from 580 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:29,679 these exoplanets 581 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:32,320 what we have is again remote sensing 582 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:33,280 data 583 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:35,440 that we've been able to use to deduce 584 00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:37,520 that those exoplanets are there 585 00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:39,200 you know sometimes uh several light 586 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,960 years away many like years dozens 587 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:42,559 hundreds of light years away 588 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:44,240 uh through different methods like the 589 00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:46,320 wobble method and the transit method and 590 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,880 so on 591 00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:48,880 i won't get into all that but uh 592 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,960 basically it's remote sensing data that 593 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,559 has allowed us to deduce 594 00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:54,960 that these exoplanets are there uh 595 00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:57,200 shouldn't the same type of thinking be 596 00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:00,320 applied to these ufos and there seems 597 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:01,840 little doubt 598 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,520 uh rubio did mention that uh you know 599 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,200 the occasional maybe atmospheric 600 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,200 phenomenon or that type of thing 601 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:12,240 but um you know the remote sensing gear 602 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:12,960 that they have 603 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:15,280 can't it has to be a lot more reliable 604 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:16,159 uh than 605 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:20,400 which you know i don't doubt that does 606 00:20:23,909 --> 00:20:21,919 happen in some instances 607 00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:23,919 but even if you get through all that uh 608 00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,000 there are still some cases that 609 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:28,240 uh you know again are interesting and 610 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:29,679 that there are more cases 611 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:31,440 uh than that we've been hearing about 612 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:33,440 over the last few years so 613 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,640 uh so there's that so uh let's move on 614 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:37,919 oh go ahead you want to say something 615 00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,000 yeah something uh 616 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,880 very it's not as deep a conversation as 617 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:44,480 what you just stated which was really 618 00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,159 excellent information 619 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,559 but just something uh lightly anecdotal 620 00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:50,080 i was speaking to a friend of mine who's 621 00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:52,240 a well-known person in the ufo community 622 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:52,880 and 623 00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,840 has dedicated probably 40 years of their 624 00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:57,520 life to the ufo topic 625 00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,559 uh with regards to researching it and 626 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:02,720 two things he stated that 627 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,120 um he really hopes that 628 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:09,600 the physical reality of this uh the 629 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:10,240 crafts 630 00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,159 that we're catching on video are uh 631 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:16,559 is being considered as far as you know 632 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:18,880 what the hell are these things made of 633 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:21,520 and in addition to that um he probably 634 00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:23,120 meant more than that 635 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,400 but he also joked around with something 636 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:28,720 that is true and that is the media 637 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:32,240 and also um folks who are spokespeople 638 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:33,360 for various 639 00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:36,480 folks um of authority in the us talking 640 00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:38,480 about the ufo topic 641 00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,120 they jockey or bandy in between the 642 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,039 acronyms of ufo uap 643 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,520 and uav all the time although the 644 00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,440 military industrial complex usually 645 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,679 sticks with the term uap 646 00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:51,039 but he just found that kind of 647 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:53,679 interesting that nobody can seem to just 648 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:54,320 commit to 649 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,600 one acronym consistently but that's just 650 00:22:02,630 --> 00:21:59,280 a minor irritation 651 00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:02,640 the real issue is we have a strange 652 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,159 unidentified aircraft of some sort 653 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,960 the physical reality of it we are not 654 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,760 aware 655 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:12,400 of regarding being able to nail down 656 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:12,880 what 657 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:16,559 it is made of um and also how it's 658 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,000 coming and going 659 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:20,320 and also in addition to that the fact 660 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:22,480 that it is flying over sensitive 661 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,559 military formations and facilities uh or 662 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:29,200 a secret facilities that we have is of 663 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,159 deep concern 664 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,120 and it should be because this is this 665 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:35,520 issue we're talking about here 666 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,440 is considered in my from my perspective 667 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,360 um and i'm going to assume this is 668 00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:43,120 probably the perspective of the united 669 00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:44,320 states military 670 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,880 and our government in general the number 671 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:47,679 one 672 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,960 or number two issue we should all 673 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,799 have at the top of our list on this 674 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:54,000 planet and 675 00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:57,120 we don't well i i i'm not 676 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,640 i'm not as concerned about it as 677 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,799 an anonymous source so why didn't they 678 00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,559 want their name attached to this or 679 00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,559 well whatever regardless i mean those 680 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:08,080 are those kinds of ideas have been 681 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:09,280 expressed before 682 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:12,240 and the language changes uh it involves 683 00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,039 the acronym 684 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,799 ufo i mean that's the one that i stick 685 00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,400 with obviously i got it slapped on 686 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:18,000 everything i'm involved with 687 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,760 because that's the one that most people 688 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:21,120 are familiar with so you know 689 00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,320 whenever you want to communicate with 690 00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:24,159 people you want to communicate with them 691 00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:24,559 in a 692 00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:28,880 understand very easily 693 00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:31,280 and another thing they've thrown in this 694 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,480 phenomena word 695 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,799 which i think is a little bit misleading 696 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,000 because of anything 697 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,080 with the way they're describing uh the 698 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,080 type of evidence especially this remote 699 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:41,840 sensing evidence that they've got 700 00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:44,400 uh they're they're determining through 701 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,640 this they're pretty well proving that 702 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,720 these things are in fact flying objects 703 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,640 so you know why gets the old acronym 704 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:52,320 well because of stigma i mean that's why 705 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,080 they did it let's not kid ourselves yeah 706 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,400 so we already know that but uh right 707 00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,360 that's their problem 708 00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,760 it's not uh it's a source of endless 709 00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,520 fascination for me i'm not the least bit 710 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:03,279 concerned with any stigma 711 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:06,320 not worried about it at all but uh your 712 00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,760 friend also mentioned the media and i 713 00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,360 think that we're going to get into that 714 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:12,000 after we get a few through a couple more 715 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,720 interviews 716 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,120 of course former to the stars members 717 00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:17,200 lou elizondo and chris mellon 718 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:19,200 also made themselves available for 719 00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:20,400 interview over 720 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:22,799 at fox so let's uh let's go through 721 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:25,670 elizondo's comments so let's get to that 722 00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:30,710 all right and now for something 723 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,960 completely different the former national 724 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,159 intelligence director 725 00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:36,640 is revealing a new government report on 726 00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:37,679 ufos 727 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,039 will be full of never before seen 728 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:44,400 or heard intel 729 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:45,840 frankly there are a lot more sightings 730 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:47,440 than have been made public 731 00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,840 we're talking about objects that um 732 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,880 frankly um 733 00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:53,200 engage in actions that are difficult to 734 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,799 explain that 735 00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:57,039 movements that uh that are hard to 736 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,240 replicate that we don't have the 737 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,720 technology forward 738 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:02,640 okay joining us right now to discuss is 739 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,200 lou elizondo he is the former director 740 00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:06,880 of the advanced aerospace threat 741 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,200 identification program a pentagon unit 742 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,600 that studied ufos lou good morning to 743 00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:12,720 you 744 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,640 so part of the evidence apparently is 745 00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:18,480 going to show ufos or some 746 00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:20,080 you know they're just unidentified 747 00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:22,640 objects breaking the sound barrier 748 00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,840 without a sonic boom how is that 749 00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,600 possible well i think that's 750 00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,279 probably the crux of the problem that we 751 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:33,039 are seeing these 752 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:34,400 let's call them vehicles if you will 753 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:36,240 that are incurring it to control u.s 754 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:37,279 airspace 755 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,960 that are displaying performance 756 00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,559 characteristics that are frankly well 757 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,320 beyond anything that we can either 758 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,400 replicate or in some cases really even 759 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,840 understand 760 00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,679 so when when you're talking about that 761 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:48,880 you're talking about 762 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,159 how these things are able to do things 763 00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:54,320 that we have no idea how it's possible 764 00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:56,159 given the speed and the altitude 765 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,520 and things like that the turns and 766 00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,279 everything like that 767 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:02,559 i'm sure you've got the top uh physics 768 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:05,440 experts in the world working on this can 769 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,320 they come up with any explanation 770 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,159 you know i think as we begin to look at 771 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:11,760 this we're beginning to realize that a 772 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,320 lot of this 773 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,760 really isn't breaking the laws of 774 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,360 physics what it's doing is 775 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,360 really breaking our understanding of the 776 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:19,919 current laws of physics that we that we 777 00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,480 are looking at in essence um these 778 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:24,000 things if you look at quantum physics 779 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,440 there's a lot of modeling right now that 780 00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:27,279 suggests that a lot of this performance 781 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,240 can be 782 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,440 explained uh if you have a really deep 783 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:33,120 understanding of quantum physics and by 784 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,720 the way you're absolutely right there's 785 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,320 there's five unique observables that 786 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,000 these things are are displaying one 787 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,400 is instantaneous acceleration the second 788 00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,240 one is hypersonic velocity 789 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:44,320 the third one is a bit of an oxymoron 790 00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,080 but it's low observability 791 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,919 and then the fourth one is transmedium 792 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:49,279 travel the ability to operate in 793 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,480 different environments 794 00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,559 and then the last observable is this if 795 00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,559 you will this weird positive lift or 796 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:56,240 anti-gravity where you have these 797 00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:56,960 vehicles 798 00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,600 with no wings no control surfaces no 799 00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:01,440 engines and yet somehow they're able to 800 00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,919 fly 801 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:04,240 and frankly outperform some of the very 802 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:05,440 best aircraft that we have in our 803 00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:06,480 inventory 804 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:08,799 unbelievable stuff so when lou when 805 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:09,679 people say oh 806 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:12,880 you're in that business uh how do you 807 00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,480 how do you explain these ufos 808 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,159 sure well my business has always been 809 00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,159 that as an investigator uh 810 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,640 i was an intelligence officer for the us 811 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,559 government so my business was just 812 00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,159 to find the truth whatever the truth is 813 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,559 whether it's a terrorism investigation 814 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:30,960 or counter-espionage yeah we applied the 815 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,399 same methodologies we did 816 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,960 investigating terrorist uh if you will 817 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:36,159 uh operations 818 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:38,799 and operatives as we we did with this 819 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,520 and 820 00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,039 the information is very compelling it's 821 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:43,520 it's real okay it's real 822 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,200 are they from another planet 823 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,520 well i i think it's too early to tell uh 824 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:51,360 the real the three options are 825 00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,720 that have been presented that is our 826 00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,799 secret technology uh but we've done a 827 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,480 terrible job at coordinating 828 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,000 the testing of this technology for 829 00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:59,840 decades with ourselves which is highly 830 00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,559 unlikely 831 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,080 the second option is that it's foreign 832 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,760 adversarial technology 833 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,760 which if you were to ask me would be a 834 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:07,440 huge intelligence failure of this 835 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,640 country because we've been 836 00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,880 technologically leapfrogged or the third 837 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,840 option is that it's 838 00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,520 something completely different it's if 839 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:15,600 it's not ours and it's not there as well 840 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:18,159 then it's it's someone or something else 841 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,120 i can't wait for this 842 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,720 report to come out lou thank you very 843 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:22,480 much for joining us today interesting 844 00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:25,919 sir my pleasure okay 845 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,480 and then uh fox news later in the week 846 00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:30,880 tucker carlson had chris mellon back on 847 00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:31,840 his show 848 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,039 and he was able to respond to 849 00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,360 ratcliffe's claims from a few days 850 00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,720 earlier fighting 851 00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,399 now john ratcliffe who is the director 852 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:42,080 of national intelligence has said the 853 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,799 report will have 854 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:45,279 massive implications frankly he said 855 00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,480 there are a lot more settings that have 856 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:48,080 been made public 857 00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,440 now chris mallon has been on this 858 00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,960 subject more carefully than maybe 859 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:52,240 anybody in the united states he's a 860 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:53,200 former pentagon 861 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,279 official and he joins us tonight for a 862 00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:56,960 preview of what we may find out chris i 863 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:58,159 appreciate you coming on tonight 864 00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,039 what do you think we're going to learn 865 00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,760 in this report well thanks very much 866 00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,399 tucker and 867 00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,760 thanks for drawing attention to this 868 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,679 issue i think it could be 869 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:08,960 profound and transformative as as a 870 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:09,840 former dni 871 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,200 john ratcliff suggested because in 1970 872 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:15,520 when project blue book concluded 873 00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,840 they concluded and told the american 874 00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,440 people we don't see any evidence of 875 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,279 technological breakthroughs beyond 876 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:23,200 anything that we can do ourselves 877 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:26,080 we don't see any evidence of a threat to 878 00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,279 national security 879 00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:28,880 i don't think they can honestly say 880 00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,039 either of those things in this case 881 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:33,200 and as people begin to digest that and 882 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:34,320 they are going to address this at an 883 00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,840 unclassified level so that will be a 884 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:37,039 public statement 885 00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:38,640 i think that's going to raise a lot of 886 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,080 questions and send some shock waves 887 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,440 so they've been lying i mean i think 888 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,360 that's i think we can say that and 889 00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,520 you know who knows why but that really 890 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,799 is the question why 891 00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,480 you know what why haven't we heard this 892 00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:52,640 before it's it's a it's a huge deal it 893 00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:53,679 could change our 894 00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,559 perception of our place in in the source 895 00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,320 in the universe really 896 00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,399 why hasn't anyone come forward with this 897 00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:01,840 prior to 898 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,399 this coming june it's largely been a 899 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,760 matter of stigma 900 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:07,679 and people are afraid to discuss it you 901 00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:09,360 know it's shocking and this is how i got 902 00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:10,640 involved 903 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,240 i became aware in 2016 904 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,960 that u.s navy squadrons operating off 905 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:18,399 the east coast of the united states were 906 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,520 having recurring 907 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:21,760 encounters with these vehicles and 908 00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:23,440 nobody in the intelligence community was 909 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,159 responding 910 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,919 nobody was supporting them nobody was 911 00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,320 backing them up nobody was investigating 912 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:30,000 it was not being reported up the chain 913 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:31,440 of command the secretary of defense 914 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,320 didn't know 915 00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,919 it wasn't a matter of concealing the 916 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,000 information uh in the sense 917 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:37,760 of they knew it and processed it and 918 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,200 withheld it from the public 919 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:41,760 it was a matter of hear no evil see no 920 00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,559 evil 921 00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,480 and that's okay as a personal choice 922 00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:45,840 perhaps but that's not what you want in 923 00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,159 the intelligence community 924 00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:50,480 no it's totally negligent and reckless 925 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,679 actually um 926 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,120 do you think that we'll find the 927 00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:54,960 government has physical evidence of 928 00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:00,230 we may uh i do want to temper 929 00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:01,679 expectations a little bit 930 00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:04,799 um the the request from the congress 931 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,760 is not to release classified information 932 00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,799 but to review 933 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:10,399 all of the classified information 934 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:12,080 regardless of source 935 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,200 and then render an unclassified judgment 936 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,000 based on that review so it's not going 937 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,760 to be a big document dump 938 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,080 it's not going to be revealing uh 939 00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:24,480 necessarily new videos or anything of 940 00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:25,519 that nature 941 00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:27,519 but they will be reviewing all of the 942 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,640 information if they 943 00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,559 if they do this in the manner that it's 944 00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,399 been requested and then they're going to 945 00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,480 has to off to also also have to address 946 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,480 who's in charge how are we going to 947 00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,159 manage this issue going forward 948 00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:40,559 who do we think is behind this are there 949 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:42,080 any technological breakthroughs here 950 00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,080 that we should be concerned about 951 00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:47,440 so uh there's a lot on the plate and um 952 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,830 man it's just so frustrating i wish 953 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:55,200 they'd just be honest about everything 954 00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,480 they're still they're still hiding 955 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,919 material from the kennedy assassination 956 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:59,360 almost 60 years ago it's just 957 00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,960 it's really remarkable chris mellon i 958 00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:02,240 appreciate you've done so much on this 959 00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:03,919 topic i hope you'll come back 960 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:06,559 i thank you very much for having me 961 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:07,120 first 962 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,720 and a lot of it's bad but here's one 963 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,559 good thing 964 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:12,480 so a couple things that we do know 965 00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,760 obviously just because 966 00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,559 melon and alexander will have left ttsa 967 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,640 they're still involved in the ufo stuff 968 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,240 still available for interviews 969 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:22,799 uh that's always good stuff to know and 970 00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:23,360 again 971 00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,679 melon brings up the stigma issue i 972 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:27,200 thought that was very interesting 973 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:30,240 and obviously you know 974 00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,320 that can't deny it again i don't feel it 975 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,399 is a subject that should be stigmatized 976 00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:38,720 but obviously some people do for 977 00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:39,840 whatever reason 978 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:42,399 and uh chant do you have any thoughts on 979 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,720 the last couple interviews 980 00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,440 no i like to listen to you talk a little 981 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,000 bit more on topics sometimes than just 982 00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,399 okay discuss things later yeah i mean 983 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:54,000 it's good that everything is getting out 984 00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:56,320 there obviously it's not as full 985 00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,600 and complete again not talking he did 986 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,519 melon did mention the history uh going 987 00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,720 back to blue book 988 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,320 uh wrapping up i think it was actually 989 00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:06,640 the late 60s rather than 70. 990 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,919 and there were some reasons for that uh 991 00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,720 the you 992 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,880 at the time the air force was still also 993 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,960 running down cases from the public 994 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,640 and they definitely wanted to get out of 995 00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,000 that business so 996 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,240 i think that was part of the reason that 997 00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:22,159 at least part of the reason maybe the 998 00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:24,080 main reason for shutting down blue book 999 00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:25,519 they just didn't want to get involved in 1000 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:25,919 that 1001 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,640 but of course so we've known all along 1002 00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:30,960 that they do investigate ufo cases 1003 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,559 uh when they are directly involved 1004 00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:36,080 when their own planes go out and have 1005 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:37,519 encounters or they pick up something in 1006 00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:38,159 radar 1007 00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:39,679 of course they take a closer look at 1008 00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:41,440 that the reason being is uh 1009 00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:44,080 literally it's their job to do it so 1010 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:45,519 we've known all along that we've been 1011 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,080 doing it 1012 00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:48,559 uh the comments uh from radcliffe again 1013 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,000 uh basically he 1014 00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:52,559 uh just came out and confirmed stuff 1015 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:53,600 that 1016 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,440 you know we're following along closely 1017 00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:57,679 that uh we've already known about uh 1018 00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:00,399 we are or surmised that uh that was the 1019 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,200 case and 1020 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:03,039 uh he confirmed it so it was very 1021 00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,880 significant and obviously it 1022 00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:07,039 uh kicked up a lot of interest so uh 1023 00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:07,919 yeah we're going to be 1024 00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:10,639 really interested to see uh rubio had 1025 00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,280 mentioned 1026 00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,359 that he thought that there was a 1027 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,639 possibility that 1028 00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:17,280 the report might not get turned in on 1029 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,159 time uh 1030 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:21,760 maybe the dog eats it who knows but uh 1031 00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:25,280 but uh uh you know we will get it uh he 1032 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,760 said that 1033 00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,520 that's not uncommon he also mentioned 1034 00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,200 that not necessarily 1035 00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,839 uh just uh about the ufo subject that 1036 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,520 it's uh not uncommon that these 1037 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,399 requisition reports often uh are delayed 1038 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:38,000 or not turned in on time 1039 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:42,000 um you know he seems to accept that i'm 1040 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:43,440 not sure that i do i mean we're talking 1041 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:44,720 about a report here 1042 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,760 get us the report and lou elizondo over 1043 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:49,200 on twitter has said that 1044 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,720 uh yeah they should be given a little 1045 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,399 bit more time to do it right 1046 00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:54,320 well i mean what what guarantee are you 1047 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,520 going to have that 1048 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:57,440 if you get another three months or six 1049 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,800 months or even a year 1050 00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,720 how much better is that report going to 1051 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,000 be let's see the report 1052 00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,400 now six months is plenty of time to put 1053 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:06,720 in a uh to get in a report 1054 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,000 so uh uh you know honestly i i think 1055 00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,000 they're going to put just as much effort 1056 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,359 five minutes to midnight to turn in 1057 00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:17,760 some unidentified aerial phenomena task 1058 00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:19,839 force related report 1059 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:23,599 on uh you know on 1060 00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,720 almost on time or on time they put just 1061 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,000 as much effort 1062 00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,400 as if they were to do it now yeah i mean 1063 00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:31,920 it doesn't that's pretty much 1064 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,500 how i uh produce the show 1065 00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,440 [Laughter] 1066 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,599 it makes no sense to me like why they 1067 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:39,599 would really need all that time 1068 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:42,240 i honestly uh i know it sounds biased 1069 00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:42,640 but 1070 00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,280 i don't believe that they don't uh that 1071 00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,359 they really need that much more time 1072 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:50,320 i'll tell you why we've had 70 years 1073 00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:51,040 exactly 1074 00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:54,800 of ufo activity how much more 1075 00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,920 time do you guys need and yes i know 1076 00:36:03,109 --> 00:35:59,760 that your committee was just made 1077 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:03,119 but so what really so what 1078 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,320 let me let me explain further i'm gonna 1079 00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,839 i'm gonna just speak directly to the 1080 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:08,960 audience here 1081 00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:12,960 if you really believe elizondo 1082 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:16,079 was involved in a group that 1083 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:19,760 studied ufo a related phenomena 1084 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:22,640 i don't care if you call it a uas a uav 1085 00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,040 uh 1086 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:26,480 uf a uap a ufo for 1087 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:29,920 a few years five or eight years a decade 1088 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,119 whatever and the u.s government just 1089 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:36,240 started studying it back then 1090 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,440 you're you're dumber than a rock okay 1091 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:41,520 i'm sorry to say it but you are 1092 00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:44,880 i'll tell you why the one of the top 1093 00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:47,599 number one things in the u.s that the 1094 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:48,720 military 1095 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,320 is worried about is what is in our skies 1096 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,400 they've never not worried about it it's 1097 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,640 of paramount importance to us 1098 00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,040 and for anybody to just even go along 1099 00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:01,119 with the idea of the narrative 1100 00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:04,480 that um you know 1101 00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:07,680 we're just studying this now give me a 1102 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:08,560 break 1103 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:11,920 we've studied this for under a century 1104 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:14,560 probably probably longer even without 1105 00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,760 when we didn't have the kind of 1106 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,359 technology we have today 1107 00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:19,280 the us government was probably studying 1108 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:20,839 as much as they could 1109 00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:24,000 um uh you know 1110 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,000 a good three quarters of a century no 1111 00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,760 doubt about it he argued but i'm 1112 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,599 fine with that i'm fine with somebody 1113 00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,359 arguing with me on that point 1114 00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,599 i'm okay with it but we definitely know 1115 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:35,200 it's a fact we've been studying it for 1116 00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,160 70 years 1117 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,960 there is no need for us to wait any 1118 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:40,560 longer on this report 1119 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,599 you and i both knew as soon as we saw 1120 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:44,880 this news 1121 00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:47,920 hit the airwaves regarding june 1st oh 1122 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,920 june 1st oh we're going to on june 1st 1123 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:51,520 we're going to find out about all this 1124 00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,079 stuff 1125 00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:54,560 we knew that was a bunch of bs you know 1126 00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,359 why 1127 00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:57,599 because the government is not known for 1128 00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:58,800 being efficient 1129 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,240 or on time right when have they ever 1130 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:04,480 been efficient or on time in general 1131 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,599 never 1132 00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,160 so why would they do it now especially 1133 00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:09,920 with this topic 1134 00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:13,119 you know the uh glowing arrows and black 1135 00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:15,119 money article that was published i think 1136 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:18,079 it was helen cooper ralph blumenthal and 1137 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,440 leslie keane 1138 00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,960 you and i remember when that was dropped 1139 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,720 that was dropped like on a friday or on 1140 00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:24,320 a weekend when everybody was just 1141 00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,599 getting out of work 1142 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:28,079 they they and i'll explain who they 1143 00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:28,800 could be 1144 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,160 but they the powers that be allowed that 1145 00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:34,400 leak or whatever you want to call it 1146 00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:35,359 that planned 1147 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,480 leak to happen right then at that point 1148 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:39,839 in time 1149 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,760 for a reason and that is because 1150 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,160 the powers that be do not want the 1151 00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,160 general public to be caught up on this 1152 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:49,599 topic 1153 00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,480 why well you figure it out okay there's 1154 00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:54,560 plenty of conspiracies out there 1155 00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:57,680 to ruminate over to argue over regarding 1156 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,880 why but you know look whatever 1157 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:02,880 whatever the case is because we've seen 1158 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:05,040 a lot of activity off and on regarding 1159 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:05,920 this topic 1160 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:08,640 intermingled with the the us government 1161 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:09,119 and 1162 00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:12,000 various alphabet agencies names involved 1163 00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:12,400 and 1164 00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:14,560 has anything ever happened or come to 1165 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,440 fruition 1166 00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,640 not really so what's going to end up 1167 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:20,480 happening with this situation 1168 00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:24,400 is nothing 1169 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:26,079 and people keep saying oh this is going 1170 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:27,760 to be the year of ufos 1171 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:30,480 sorry no i don't see it now if you want 1172 00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,720 to talk about in the respect that yes 1173 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,280 okay we are actually getting some 1174 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:36,960 radar-related evidence 1175 00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:39,520 on our screens that we can stare at that 1176 00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:40,079 uh 1177 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,760 evidently our military-industrial 1178 00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:43,839 complex is having issues 1179 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,119 honing in on targeting visually it can't 1180 00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:49,119 keep up with the objects 1181 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,240 okay that's exciting but we really want 1182 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:54,160 this unidentified aerial phenomena task 1183 00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,640 force 1184 00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,200 to take the responsibility seriously and 1185 00:40:02,550 --> 00:39:59,280 don't miss that deadline 1186 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:02,560 you know why because the public is tired 1187 00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:05,280 of being let down and but we're used to 1188 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:05,839 it 1189 00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:08,720 but look i mean when you build up 1190 00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,079 momentum for something 1191 00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:13,599 you also build up morale if they 1192 00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:16,880 miss this june 1st deadline that morale 1193 00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,589 then we're going to have the same old 1194 00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:24,079 tired argument the ufo community 1195 00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:26,480 this the the the stage two is gonna 1196 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,119 happen 1197 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:30,160 oh disappointment sadness oh then 1198 00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,640 they're gonna 1199 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,160 bring their hopes up high again we're 1200 00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:34,319 gonna have a whole new level of cliche 1201 00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,040 related 1202 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,839 uh oriented uh uh discussion on it on 1203 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:39,040 ufo twitter 1204 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,680 it's big so what you know why because 1205 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,599 it's a waste of energy 1206 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:45,680 now i know that sounds you know like i'm 1207 00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:46,720 being a real 1208 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,839 downer about it you are you are being a 1209 00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:50,480 downer 1210 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,440 but that has been the reality of this 1211 00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:55,280 top 1212 00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:58,560 ad nauseam for seven decades now why is 1213 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,079 it going to be any different now 1214 00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,640 i guess well i'll find out june 4. well 1215 00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:03,839 we will find out 1216 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,800 and this uh report is the ultimate 1217 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:08,800 responsibility of a number of people 1218 00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:11,680 uh we heard uh from the the former team 1219 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,119 the trump team uh from 1220 00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,119 ratcliffe and his comments were quite 1221 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,359 interesting and uh of course uh 1222 00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:20,160 his uh his boss or no i'm sorry not his 1223 00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:21,280 boss but the 1224 00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,560 secretary of defense and uh the uh 1225 00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,800 deputy secretary of defense uh we talked 1226 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,000 a little bit about 1227 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:31,040 them what their backgrounds were and uh 1228 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:32,800 what their interests might be 1229 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:35,760 uh in the ufo stuff uh former secretary 1230 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,400 of defense 1231 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:40,160 mark esper uh had uh had had a publicly 1232 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:40,720 avowed 1233 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:43,440 interest in the hypersonics and as did 1234 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:44,160 deputy 1235 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,440 know that 1236 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,400 esper talked about the ufo issue when he 1237 00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:51,760 met with the 1238 00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,520 japanese defense minister last year 1239 00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:58,000 the subject did come up that's as far as 1240 00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:58,880 we know 1241 00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:01,440 the only interaction that our government 1242 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,560 has had with 1243 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,400 any of our allies on this particular 1244 00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,240 issue we don't know if 1245 00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:08,079 anything else if there's been any back 1246 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,839 and forth with the the brits or the 1247 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:11,520 french or the canadians or whatever the 1248 00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,480 case may be 1249 00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:14,640 and of course we do know that that david 1250 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:16,400 norquist was named 1251 00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:20,240 to head up the uap task force 1252 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,440 he was also as the deputy secretary in 1253 00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,040 charge of the committee that 1254 00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,920 oversees the special access programs so 1255 00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:29,839 we kind of liked the background of those 1256 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,720 two guys 1257 00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,280 uh norquist had also expressed some 1258 00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:35,680 interest in the hypersonics so 1259 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:38,319 maybe there's a little bit in both 1260 00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:39,359 esperanto 1261 00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:41,440 there was a little bit nesper esper and 1262 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:43,040 norquist's background 1263 00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,960 that might mean that the ufo issue is of 1264 00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,640 a particular interest to them 1265 00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,720 and then of course radcliff has said the 1266 00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,319 most but obviously 1267 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,400 that's the old team the new team is in 1268 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,920 that's basically 1269 00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:58,400 current president biden's team and what 1270 00:43:02,470 --> 00:42:59,040 we have 1271 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,480 now is that we've got lloyd austin 1272 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,960 uh we've got that who is now secretary 1273 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,760 of defense 1274 00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,640 uh we've got catherine hicks who is in 1275 00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:11,119 norquist's old spot deputy secretary of 1276 00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:12,160 defense and 1277 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:15,359 we've got avril haynes who is in the 1278 00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:18,560 position that ratcliffe held so i did 1279 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,119 think it was 1280 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:21,599 worth the time to go take a a somewhat 1281 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,240 closer 1282 00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,640 look at the backgrounds of these three 1283 00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:26,319 individuals to see if there's anything 1284 00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:27,200 that 1285 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:31,040 particular interest in ufos 1286 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,880 uh there's not a whole lot there but a 1287 00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:34,960 couple things that are of interest 1288 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:38,400 uh haynes is a longtime army guy 1289 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,560 retired as a four-star general he's now 1290 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,480 the secretary of defense of course 1291 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:44,079 uh the only thing that i found that 1292 00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,599 would be a particular interest that 1293 00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:47,440 regarding the ufo stuff 1294 00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:51,359 uh regarding austin was when he retired 1295 00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,720 from the military 1296 00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:54,560 he joined the boards of a couple of 1297 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:55,760 different companies 1298 00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,240 uh one of them is nucor and that is a 1299 00:44:00,790 --> 00:44:00,240 producer of steel and related products 1300 00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,800 so 1301 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,119 you know if there is anything to all 1302 00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,640 this talk about materials 1303 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:06,720 and it would even get to his desk he 1304 00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,760 might already 1305 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:10,400 have enough of a knowledge base going in 1306 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:10,880 to 1307 00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,400 understand uh what all that is about and 1308 00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:17,280 also he was on the board of raytheon 1309 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,319 technologies 1310 00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:20,400 uh which is of course a defense 1311 00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:21,520 contractor 1312 00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:24,720 that built the the flear camera that was 1313 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:25,520 able to 1314 00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,920 take those videos of the ufos so 1315 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:32,319 that apparently that news came out 1316 00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,440 during the time that 1317 00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,760 he was with raytheon so is that 1318 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:37,359 something that got his attention is that 1319 00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,880 something he's interested in 1320 00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:41,680 we don't know at this point now going 1321 00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:42,079 back 1322 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,680 to uh kathleen hicks i really didn't see 1323 00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:47,920 anything in particular uh in her 1324 00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:49,040 background that 1325 00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,040 might lead her to have any particular 1326 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,040 interest and she does seem to hold the 1327 00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,720 position that might be key 1328 00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,119 she's in charge of the uap task force 1329 00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,640 but i i can't say that 1330 00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:01,119 i saw anything that was uh particularly 1331 00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,319 interesting there 1332 00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:05,520 and avril haynes uh was uh uh the person 1333 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,560 who took over 1334 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,880 for ratcliffe and uh there were a couple 1335 00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:10,560 things in her background that 1336 00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:13,200 uh were kind of interesting uh a couple 1337 00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,240 things that uh 1338 00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,040 her undergraduate studies uh she did 1339 00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:19,359 study uh theoretical physics uh we heard 1340 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:21,200 elizondo talk about the physics there 1341 00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:23,200 and does her have her undergraduate 1342 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:24,720 degree in physics 1343 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:28,240 and also uh she apparently took flying 1344 00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:29,599 lessons so i don't know if she took it 1345 00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,480 any further 1346 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,440 if she is a licensed pilot at all or she 1347 00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,119 ever got her pilot's license 1348 00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,119 but she at least has enough of an 1349 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,880 information uh that she actually took 1350 00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:40,480 some flying lessons so i thought 1351 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,119 that was kind of interesting but nothing 1352 00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,040 beyond those things necessarily jump 1353 00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:48,079 out at me to say well i'm absolutely 1354 00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,920 positively glad that this is the team 1355 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,640 that is uh 1356 00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,960 uh looking into this issue so basically 1357 00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:54,800 austin secretary of defense 1358 00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:58,319 uh picks uh deputy secretary also in 1359 00:46:02,069 --> 00:45:59,359 charge of the uap 1360 00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:02,079 task force and chairman of the committee 1361 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,480 on 1362 00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:05,040 special access programs and then hanes 1363 00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,079 who is the 1364 00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:09,440 director of national intelligence and 1365 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,560 certainly has a fair amount of power but 1366 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:15,280 may uh be uh but uh she's not in charge 1367 00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:15,599 of 1368 00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:17,359 this particular issue anyway so it'll be 1369 00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:18,640 very interesting to see 1370 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,119 obviously we uh it's safe to assume that 1371 00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,520 the ratcliffe was specifically briefed 1372 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:26,000 and got some very good information uh 1373 00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,520 which if any of these 1374 00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,440 three austin hicks and haynes have done 1375 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:31,440 the same but that basically that's the 1376 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,240 team now 1377 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:34,800 any future information that comes out uh 1378 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,800 regarding uh the ufo stuff that's in 1379 00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,680 this report 1380 00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,839 uh it's uh likely it's uh it's gonna 1381 00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:41,359 cross their desks or they're going to be 1382 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,079 aware of it 1383 00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,319 and they might well be briefed on it so 1384 00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,800 we'll see what happens in that regard 1385 00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:49,200 uh jan any thoughts on that yeah i'm 1386 00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,200 going to wind some more 1387 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:54,160 okay go ahead um that's what you're here 1388 00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:54,880 for 1389 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,960 uh right i just think um 1390 00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:01,599 that this committee that is dedicated to 1391 00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:03,359 the topic of uh 1392 00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:07,599 uaps uh really what we're going to hear 1393 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,119 um are just a lot more excuses 1394 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:14,400 i'll explain that they have been giving 1395 00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:14,800 a 1396 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,960 involved 1397 00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:24,640 and what happens when the us government 1398 00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:27,280 is involved in exotic topics like this 1399 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:27,920 where they 1400 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,589 with these kinds of committees that 1401 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:34,960 they'll do something about 1402 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,160 something and that is a kafka-esque 1403 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,119 type of situation that occurs all by 1404 00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,800 itself very conveniently much the 1405 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,160 benefit of the people who are 1406 00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:45,680 participating in that 1407 00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,319 alleged goal i say benefit because that 1408 00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,760 means i really don't have to end up 1409 00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:51,680 coming up with anything anyway and they 1410 00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:53,200 know that 1411 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:56,000 um these bureaucratic nightmares that 1412 00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:57,280 are created 1413 00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,480 uh i think purposefully uh are are 1414 00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,720 blamed on things like oh oh as 1415 00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:03,599 coordination 1416 00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,920 problems or we have flat decision 1417 00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,440 structures or 1418 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,680 oh fake buckle we couldn't we couldn't 1419 00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:10,640 uh you know 1420 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,599 meet the deadline it's just like i guess 1421 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,040 we can just expect 1422 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,400 the same kind of failure 1423 00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,119 that we've seen in the past again people 1424 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,800 can accuse me of being extremely 1425 00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:24,079 negative about this 1426 00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,640 it's based on fact though 1427 00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,800 and i'm not trying to be oh like i told 1428 00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,880 you so i'm really not 1429 00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,680 i'm just going based on history okay so 1430 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,280 what i'm trying to do here 1431 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,520 you want to finish up or can i interrupt 1432 00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,520 no you can't interrupt me i'll i do want 1433 00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:43,440 to say this 1434 00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:47,599 if i am wrong i i would be glad to be 1435 00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,079 wrong 1436 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:51,440 sure because i want our us 1437 00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:53,760 government or any government for that 1438 00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:54,720 matter i 1439 00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,640 don't care what government it is okay 1440 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:01,119 uh or even an individual just a private 1441 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,160 citizen 1442 00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:05,440 to find something in our skies that 1443 00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:09,040 is so revealing it actually can become 1444 00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,359 a form of massive disclosure for all 1445 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:15,599 because this is really all about 1446 00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:18,240 educating ourselves on what is out there 1447 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,160 and i i really take such deep offense 1448 00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,640 at these little committees that are 1449 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:25,680 created 1450 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:28,800 which i find laughable because 1451 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:32,079 nothing ever happens with regards to 1452 00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:32,800 them 1453 00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:36,160 and and in addition to that it's people 1454 00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:37,440 like you and i 1455 00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,800 who spend a copious amount of time with 1456 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:42,960 voluminous amounts of information 1457 00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:46,240 of ufo-related data that goes back 1458 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,440 oh decades that we've studied 1459 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,920 and done a lot of research on we take 1460 00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:54,000 this topic extremely seriously if we 1461 00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:55,119 didn't we wouldn't be doing what we're 1462 00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,319 doing right 1463 00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,880 and not only that but there's other 1464 00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,319 people in the ufo community that have 1465 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,640 spent their entire lives 1466 00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:04,000 i know somebody that's been studying 1467 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,520 this topic since 1956 1468 00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,680 and do you think that they really have a 1469 00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,440 lot of hope for this committee 1470 00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,839 they don't they absolutely believe 1471 00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:15,520 nothing is going to come from this 1472 00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,480 again all based on the history of these 1473 00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:19,680 kinds of things 1474 00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:22,400 that are created as goals which never 1475 00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,119 end up 1476 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,000 coming to any kind of conclusion at all 1477 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:27,599 that is meaningful 1478 00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,240 can i interrupt now yeah i'm maintaining 1479 00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,079 an open mind 1480 00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,839 and it really and this is the reason why 1481 00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:36,000 i put together this goofy little graphic 1482 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:39,520 i mean it is on these three individuals 1483 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:42,720 austin hicks and haynes it is on them 1484 00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,680 it is up to them so the the the buck 1485 00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,359 stops with somebody on this 1486 00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:50,400 and if this uh this report is delayed 1487 00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,359 significantly 1488 00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:53,760 or when it comes out it uh proves to be 1489 00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:56,559 a profound disappointment 1490 00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,480 those those are the the people you need 1491 00:51:01,270 --> 00:51:00,240 to blame because they're the ones who 1492 00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,280 are in charge now 1493 00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,040 now it's nice to see ratcliffe come out 1494 00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,800 and uh who knows maybe esper and 1495 00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,480 norquist will do the same thing i 1496 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,240 you know i don't know it's not not 1497 00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,720 impossible and i think you have i 1498 00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,079 i would like to say something about what 1499 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:14,319 you said i do think you have a great 1500 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,760 point you know like those are the people 1501 00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,440 we do need to look to because they were 1502 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,960 responsible for various things 1503 00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:21,119 however buck stops with them uh-huh 1504 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:22,880 right however 1505 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:26,160 um the problem with society with regards 1506 00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:27,280 to this 1507 00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,190 and the sad thing regarding what i'm 1508 00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,800 about to say the end result 1509 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:36,800 it's meaningless okay but but the sad 1510 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,520 thing is is that our society has a very 1511 00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,280 very short memory 1512 00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,920 very short like and i don't i don't mean 1513 00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,520 to sound like i'm 90 years old like oh 1514 00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:47,440 our generate the newest generations like 1515 00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,079 they have the 1516 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:50,720 attention span of a baby gnat okay but 1517 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,280 it is 1518 00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,520 true whether it's older or newer 1519 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,880 generations 1520 00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:57,520 our minds have uh sped up to the point 1521 00:52:02,470 --> 00:51:59,280 regarding our attention span 1522 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:02,480 that we can't keep our mind uh you know 1523 00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:05,920 uh occupied on topics like this for any 1524 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,280 meaningful amount of time at 1525 00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,599 all because technology if anything has 1526 00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,359 trained us not to 1527 00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:14,480 so anyway uh 1528 00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:16,960 i would again love to be wrong but these 1529 00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:18,000 dreams they flicker 1530 00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,599 in front of us like little carrots you 1531 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,040 know they dangle like 1532 00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,440 you know just in front of us like oh you 1533 00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,880 know it's so in reach 1534 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:26,880 you know uh this this little struggle to 1535 00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,960 find out more about this topic 1536 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,800 um that's actually considered one of the 1537 00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,240 top topics 1538 00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:34,160 that the us government could ever worry 1539 00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,520 about and 1540 00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:38,000 will we find out anything i i just don't 1541 00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:39,280 think we will 1542 00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:42,319 sorry to say well thanks for brightening 1543 00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,119 the mood 1544 00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:46,079 yes actually i still remain open-minded 1545 00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:48,079 and uh cautiously optimistic 1546 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,960 well no more i mean this is uh uh you 1547 00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,000 talked about 1548 00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:54,000 uh some folks uh being involved in this 1549 00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,839 uh longer than uh you and i have been 1550 00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,200 alive you know 1551 00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:59,520 so and that that is a fact you know no 1552 00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,400 doubt about it 1553 00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,839 the people have gotten interested in 1554 00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,440 this and 1555 00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:06,559 initially uh back in december of 2017 1556 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:10,800 into the early part of 2018 i was uh 1557 00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:14,000 excuse me i was you know probably 1558 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:15,599 a little overly optimistic i thought 1559 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,440 we'd learn a lot more a lot faster 1560 00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,880 because it turned out it didn't 1561 00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,119 didn't happen that way but even in some 1562 00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:23,200 of my correspondence with folks uh back 1563 00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:23,760 then 1564 00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:26,079 uh there's sort of a best-case scenario 1565 00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:27,839 and a worst case scenario and 1566 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,839 my sort of worst case scenario really 1567 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,680 wasn't that bad when you think about it 1568 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:33,680 we'll continue to find out more about 1569 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,880 ufos 1570 00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:37,440 and i think that has absolutely happened 1571 00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:38,240 and i think 1572 00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:42,400 whatever is in this particular report 1573 00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:45,680 will tell us more about it yeah 1574 00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:48,079 we'll know more about usos it'll provide 1575 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,359 leads to some of those 1576 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,800 great researchers who've been at this 1577 00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,960 for decades and know how to take 1578 00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,119 the tiniest little bit of information 1579 00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:57,040 and turn them into four-year requests 1580 00:54:03,030 --> 00:53:58,960 where we get even more information 1581 00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,040 so you and i both know just 1582 00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:06,079 really interesting people who have spent 1583 00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:09,040 again decades of their life filling out 1584 00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,720 those very 1585 00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:13,839 dry looking forms with the dry data 1586 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,559 just to find out something amazing all 1587 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:18,240 for free you know they but they put 1588 00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,359 their money into it 1589 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:21,040 they've spent oh some people spent 1590 00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:22,480 hundreds of dollars filling out foia 1591 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:23,440 requests 1592 00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:26,880 for years all just to 1593 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,599 help educate everybody on the planet at 1594 00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,720 their expense 1595 00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,240 so we can find out more about the ufo 1596 00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,720 topic hoping that the us government or 1597 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:36,240 other governments around the world will 1598 00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:40,400 accidentally or meaning meaning to 1599 00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:43,359 purposefully or not leak data to us that 1600 00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,559 we want to find out 1601 00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:47,040 more information about regarding the ufo 1602 00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:48,559 topic now 1603 00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,680 two things you notice yeah you notice 1604 00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,680 that i let you interrupt me just uh just 1605 00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,119 put that out yes go ahead keep going 1606 00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:57,040 with your two things because i have more 1607 00:55:02,390 --> 00:54:58,400 i want to say 1608 00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:02,400 okay well that's fine um 1609 00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,520 et's will be the ones to report anything 1610 00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,200 meaningful to us 1611 00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,839 okay that's my perspective at this point 1612 00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,559 if we're if i had to put my money down 1613 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,799 on i'll just say the us government for 1614 00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:16,960 example or first world country 1615 00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:20,240 revealing anything of import 1616 00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,000 i would put my money down on the ets 1617 00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,319 first that's how bureaucratic that's how 1618 00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:25,839 much of a bureaucratic nightmare they 1619 00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:26,319 are 1620 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:30,000 those those entities 1621 00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:32,319 the uh the u.s government or canadian or 1622 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:33,359 english 1623 00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:36,480 governments and in addition to that uh 1624 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,079 the part two is it'd be a private 1625 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,000 citizen that would find anything 1626 00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:41,760 but even then i'm not sure anybody would 1627 00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,079 believe it because of the capability of 1628 00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:46,960 deep fake technology so that goes 1629 00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,599 against 1630 00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:50,079 that uh you know that that's going to 1631 00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:51,760 work against people too if they have 1632 00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:55,119 authentic and genuine uh footage 1633 00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:58,240 um then then they would have to grapple 1634 00:56:02,950 --> 00:55:59,280 with 1635 00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,960 discernment well is it deep fake that 1636 00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:04,720 we're looking at we don't know 1637 00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,000 and the problem with deep fakes is now 1638 00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:10,319 the technology is so good and what's so 1639 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,599 disturbing about it 1640 00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,920 is we have artificial intelligence now 1641 00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:15,839 that can't even tell if it's artificial 1642 00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,040 intelligence it's looking at 1643 00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:21,119 or we can be confident that the 1644 00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,480 interviews that we saw 1645 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,799 over the last week to 10 days are 1646 00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:26,559 anything but deep fakes those were the 1647 00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,520 real people 1648 00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,040 they said what they said they're key 1649 00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:30,960 people and all this and 1650 00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,280 uh basically i think it was a very good 1651 00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,119 little uh stretch of time 1652 00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,960 for news i mean we know a little bit 1653 00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,319 more uh 1654 00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,319 and uh that i think that's a good thing 1655 00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,079 so i'm not unhappy about that at all 1656 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,880 now one thing uh i did i want to move 1657 00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,040 forward and talk about the nature of the 1658 00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:49,119 media that is covering this 1659 00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:52,880 because i'm sorry i wanted to read steve 1660 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,559 bassett's tiny quote 1661 00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:57,119 um which is important that way folks can 1662 00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,079 hear from 1663 00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,720 the person that's lobbying in washington 1664 00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,760 on the uap 1665 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,440 topic on all of our behalf whether 1666 00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:05,680 you're in the ufo community or not 1667 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:08,799 and i asked steve bassett uh was today 1668 00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:11,680 before the show i asked him what are 1669 00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:12,000 your 1670 00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:14,319 thoughts on the trending news regarding 1671 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:15,760 the ufo topic 1672 00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:17,920 and he said there's two ways the june 1673 00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:19,119 report can go down 1674 00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:22,480 one elements within the mic 1675 00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:25,520 the military intelligence corps opposed 1676 00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:26,000 to 1677 00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,559 the disclosure process will get control 1678 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,480 and serve up a nothing burger 1679 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,240 giving the congressional committee 1680 00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,240 chairs an excuse to put off indefinitely 1681 00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:36,319 hearings for military or witnesses 1682 00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,960 or two it will be a strong report making 1683 00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,000 it easier on the committee 1684 00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,319 chairs to hold hearings it is the first 1685 00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:44,000 outcome that prompts me to press for 1686 00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,960 hearings 1687 00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,960 before the report is delivered well this 1688 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,799 is certainly possible 1689 00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:51,520 i imagine the extended pandemic and 1690 00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,160 continuance of political bad behavior 1691 00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,480 makes that less likely with each passing 1692 00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,000 week go ahead frank thanks 1693 00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,640 okay yeah i just uh wanted to make a 1694 00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:01,680 real quick point 1695 00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,400 about the the nature of the report uh 1696 00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:06,000 let's uh it's a it's gonna be a paper 1697 00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:07,520 it's gonna be a report okay so let's 1698 00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,079 assume 1699 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,200 that it follows the broad general form 1700 00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:14,160 of a scientific paper or an academic 1701 00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:14,799 paper 1702 00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:17,119 that there is uh basically uh we know 1703 00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:18,799 that we're going to get an abstract 1704 00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,440 that much we know we know that there's 1705 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:23,119 going to be a classified end of things 1706 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,400 so let's look at the 1707 00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:26,400 uh classified end of things as sort of 1708 00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:28,559 the uh the footnotes the references and 1709 00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:29,359 things like that 1710 00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,559 and then there's going to be something 1711 00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:32,799 in the middle okay now the the key is 1712 00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,319 what is that thing in the middle 1713 00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:37,200 is it is a more of that going to be 1714 00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,319 declassified 1715 00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:40,400 or are we just going to get an abstract 1716 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:41,359 was kind of a 1717 00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:44,640 vague mealy mouth response uh or 1718 00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,760 are we going to get a pretty good 1719 00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,160 abstract with very little 1720 00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:50,640 as far as the the body of the report uh 1721 00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:52,319 being uh declassified 1722 00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:55,359 that that i think uh 1723 00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:56,799 they're going to want to try to avoid 1724 00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:58,640 because that's going to raise a lot of 1725 00:59:02,069 --> 00:58:59,839 questions uh 1726 00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:02,079 basically what we should get what we 1727 00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:02,880 should get 1728 00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:06,000 is a a very good abstract and we should 1729 00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,440 get a very good report 1730 00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,920 and then obviously uh whatever details 1731 00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:11,359 uh regarding 1732 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:14,559 uh the the the the references that uh 1733 00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:16,240 might be included in the report that 1734 00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:18,079 declassify that you know you don't want 1735 00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:19,359 to give a 1736 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,440 specific maybe locations maybe you don't 1737 00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:23,520 want to give a specifics about 1738 00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:25,920 gear that was used uh for some of the 1739 00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,520 remote sensing although 1740 00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:29,040 that kind of stuff is uh probably has 1741 00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:30,559 been out and you know again with 1742 00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,079 raytheon we saw them 1743 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,799 take full credit in an article at their 1744 00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:35,520 website 1745 00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:38,559 uh after the december 2017 article came 1746 00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,040 out 1747 00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:40,880 so i'm not so sure how much they 1748 00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,880 actually need to have declassified they 1749 00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:44,640 might want to redact names personal 1750 00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:45,440 information 1751 00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,240 like you know captain chan hannah was 1752 00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:50,559 flying her f22 and saw this you know 1753 00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:52,160 maybe chan hannah's name doesn't 1754 00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:54,079 necessarily need to be in the report 1755 00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,400 that kind of thing might be down in a 1756 00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:57,359 classified 1757 01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:59,920 reference section but i don't see any 1758 01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:00,400 reason 1759 01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:04,400 why not and why we shouldn't uh 1760 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:07,280 see a very strong abstract and a very 1761 01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:08,240 strong report 1762 01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,119 i don't see any reason why but i don't 1763 01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:13,599 see too much point in pre-judging 1764 01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:15,520 before the report comes out that we'll 1765 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,720 we'll see what it is 1766 01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:18,400 and if it's disappointing you know that 1767 01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,839 we're going to say it here we're not 1768 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:21,440 afraid to say what we think so if it's 1769 01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:23,040 disappointing then it's disappointing 1770 01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:24,079 we'll say that 1771 01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:28,160 but if it's quite compelling and quite 1772 01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:29,599 interesting and quite important 1773 01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:34,710 um i wanted to just mention something 1774 01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,079 random 1775 01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:38,799 and that is um there are people out 1776 01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:39,599 there 1777 01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:43,119 that are actually dumb enough to try and 1778 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:45,359 shoot things down in the skies that they 1779 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:46,240 see just 1780 01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:49,920 just do it just randomly and i just want 1781 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,920 to really encourage people to not do 1782 01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:52,799 that 1783 01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:56,240 drones 1784 01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,440 are everywhere i i remember um 1785 01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:01,760 one christmas uh because i have a large 1786 01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:02,880 family 1787 01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:05,599 there were a lot of my friends and um 1788 01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:07,440 some of my family members 1789 01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:09,680 got an ungodly amount of drones for 1790 01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,880 christmas i mean 1791 01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:12,799 you can't even go to walmart and not see 1792 01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:15,040 one in the aisle some more and 1793 01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:16,880 so since we all agree they are 1794 01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:18,319 everywhere they're all around the planet 1795 01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,760 because they're being made more 1796 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,520 now than ever and every little kid on 1797 01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:23,440 every block seems to have one 1798 01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:25,920 it's really vitally important that you 1799 01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:27,599 do not do it because you can be charged 1800 01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:27,839 with 1801 01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:29,280 wanton endangerment and criminal 1802 01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,480 mischief um 1803 01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:34,720 somebody else's property you know you're 1804 01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,799 absolutely right they're violating uh 1805 01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:38,400 the right to somebody's have their 1806 01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:40,000 property up in the air 1807 01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:43,920 now that person who's uh committing to 1808 01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,680 flying the drone might be actually 1809 01:01:48,309 --> 01:01:47,359 impinging on someone else's private 1810 01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,319 property however 1811 01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:50,880 let the law deal with it but anyway what 1812 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:52,000 i was going to say is it's 1813 01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,000 interesting that uh people are saying 1814 01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:56,559 that these are uas which is unmanned um 1815 01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:59,760 the ideas unmanned drones and uh i don't 1816 01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:01,520 mean to be funny or anything but 1817 01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:05,599 you know with et civilizations plural 1818 01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:07,520 we have no idea how small or big they 1819 01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,799 are and it could be both 1820 01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:10,559 or nothing they could be you know 1821 01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:11,839 intangible 1822 01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,200 um like a ray bradbury story for example 1823 01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,440 where they're just like spheres that you 1824 01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:19,200 can't touch but you can sort of see them 1825 01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:20,400 or sense them 1826 01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:22,960 and um you know those drones that we're 1827 01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:23,760 seeing 1828 01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:26,720 there could indeed really be something 1829 01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:27,680 that small 1830 01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:30,640 that is an e.t in them how bad would you 1831 01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:31,039 feel 1832 01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,720 hopefully you have a conscience enough 1833 01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,880 to feel something if you decide to 1834 01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:36,960 actually tack something like that 1835 01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:39,599 so uh just before you pull the trigger 1836 01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:40,799 on anything 1837 01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:44,480 you know please think again don't do it 1838 01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:49,750 let's shift gears a little bit and talk 1839 01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,319 about uh the ufo community a little bit 1840 01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:54,160 and sometimes their responses 1841 01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,079 uh and we're also going to get into 1842 01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:58,400 something that i know you went off on 1843 01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:01,520 a few days ago there's been some 1844 01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:03,359 handwringing related to 1845 01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:06,720 uh the uh the the mainstream media 1846 01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,520 outlets uh 1847 01:03:11,190 --> 01:03:09,520 uh that are covering this story i mean 1848 01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:11,200 fox has led the way on the story they've 1849 01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:12,720 covered it more than anyone else 1850 01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:15,119 and of course uh leaning a little more 1851 01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:16,880 than a little bit to the right in terms 1852 01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:19,440 of their general political overview 1853 01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,920 they uh they have come in for some 1854 01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:22,799 criticism 1855 01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,960 uh i would say that things are pretty 1856 01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,240 well divided 1857 01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:28,319 obviously among people who don't like 1858 01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:29,520 fox 1859 01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:31,200 some of them are willing to accept the 1860 01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:32,960 facts hey fox is doing it and the others 1861 01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:33,599 aren't so 1862 01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:34,720 you know we'll give credit where 1863 01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:36,799 credit's due when they do it uh but 1864 01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:39,359 in general we're not fox fans so there's 1865 01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,839 that 1866 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,760 and then there are others who simply if 1867 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:43,680 it's from fox it's crap 1868 01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:46,720 now uh this uh this tweet that that 1869 01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:48,160 popped up this week 1870 01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,599 uh from keith olbermann who is a pretty 1871 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:53,520 famous media guy he's had a number of 1872 01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:54,240 jobs uh 1873 01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:55,599 over the years at a number of 1874 01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:58,160 high-profile mainstream outlets uh 1875 01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:01,680 he responded to jeremy corbell posting 1876 01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:02,720 the video 1877 01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:05,039 to the ratcliffe interview over on fox 1878 01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,240 uh you're taking 1879 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:08,960 uh maria bartiromo fox news and this 1880 01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,599 fastest 1881 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,599 liar ratcliffe as if they're even 1882 01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:12,960 occasionally credible 1883 01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:15,839 this is one step up from the cue cult 1884 01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:16,319 and 1885 01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:18,240 of course one thing that's nice is when 1886 01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,440 these public figures 1887 01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,839 uh are critical of the ufo topic or how 1888 01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:23,839 it's covered or whatever the case may be 1889 01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:25,920 they get a lot of pushback so that's 1890 01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:26,880 good to see 1891 01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:29,280 i think the ufo community is uh pretty 1892 01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:30,880 well mobilized again 1893 01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:32,960 uh you just have to look at the 1894 01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:34,400 particular individuals 1895 01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:35,920 as you know when you're talking about 1896 01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:38,400 ufos uh talk about however they're 1897 01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:39,280 involved 1898 01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,200 related to the ufos and don't get 1899 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,280 sidetracked with the other stuff 1900 01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,760 that is another thing that is not 1901 01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:46,960 helping disclosure 1902 01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,440 oh rubio said something well rubio's a 1903 01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,599 republican i hate republicans blah blah 1904 01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:53,119 and so on and so forth and 1905 01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:54,720 even though we know that there's 1906 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:56,640 actually a lot of bipartisan interest in 1907 01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,440 all this and 1908 01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:59,680 i've never really seen a whole lot of 1909 01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:00,480 evidence 1910 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:03,839 uh regarding the ufo stuff and in terms 1911 01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,079 of a partisanship although 1912 01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:08,000 rand paul did make some disparaging 1913 01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:09,760 comments about the a-tip program not 1914 01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,480 long ago 1915 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:12,480 but that doesn't come up that often so 1916 01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:13,920 there's oberman's comments 1917 01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:17,440 regarding that and then we've got elon 1918 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,000 musk 1919 01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:20,160 posting something regarding strongest 1920 01:05:24,309 --> 01:05:21,359 argument against 1921 01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,319 uh aliens camera resolute uh resolution 1922 01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:26,559 versus ufo picture resolution 1923 01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:29,039 uh you uh decided to make a comment on 1924 01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:30,079 that 1925 01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:33,599 uh the slides out of the way 1926 01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:36,079 and then also yet another uh comment 1927 01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:38,240 from neil degrasse tyson it's the very 1928 01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:40,240 fact that i continually review 1929 01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:42,160 uh the ufo literature that leaves me 1930 01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:43,920 unconvinced that we've been visited 1931 01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:46,079 uh by intelligent aliens from another 1932 01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:47,599 planet uh that 1933 01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,720 uh raises the question now which uh ufo 1934 01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:52,720 literature have you been reviewing i'm 1935 01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:54,000 not sure you're looking at the good 1936 01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,200 stuff but okay 1937 01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:57,440 uh but i have no intentions of stopping 1938 01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,440 your search uh maybe one day you'll bag 1939 01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:01,200 one i'll be delighted to meet them 1940 01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,960 uh so chant again sometimes you do have 1941 01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,480 some famous folks 1942 01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:09,119 coming forward and talking about the ufo 1943 01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:10,480 stuff in a positive light 1944 01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:13,200 but then you also have uh the occasional 1945 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:13,920 cheap shot 1946 01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:16,480 and uh that is never a good thing so uh 1947 01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:17,039 you 1948 01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:20,400 actually responded uh to the elon musk 1949 01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:20,960 tweet 1950 01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:22,960 and uh do you have that in front of you 1951 01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:24,319 you want to go ahead and read it because 1952 01:06:27,349 --> 01:06:25,119 the test 1953 01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:27,359 text is a little small in front of me so 1954 01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:29,680 now i just want to preface 1955 01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:32,079 what i'm about to say with this please 1956 01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:33,839 don't think anybody i really thought 1957 01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:35,359 elon was gonna respond to me 1958 01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:38,880 okay however i couldn't let his stupid 1959 01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:40,960 mama about ufos go by without having 1960 01:06:43,589 --> 01:06:41,680 sings 1961 01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:43,599 said something which is you know if you 1962 01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:45,440 know me it's not a shocker that i would 1963 01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:46,000 do that 1964 01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:50,240 no but anyway um the mem was just this 1965 01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,280 very simple line 1966 01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,839 graph um that indicated a camera 1967 01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:55,280 resolution 1968 01:07:02,069 --> 01:07:00,079 technology 1969 01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,079 was just going straight through the roof 1970 01:07:06,309 --> 01:07:04,000 and then it elon musk 1971 01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:06,319 in this mem indicated ufo picture 1972 01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,680 resolution was 1973 01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:09,119 really bad which is supposed to be 1974 01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,960 really hilarious you know look we hear 1975 01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:12,799 this joke all the time okay it's like a 1976 01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:14,559 really old joke 1977 01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:17,599 and um just basically what he's saying 1978 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,720 just to clear it up for 1979 01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:21,599 for folks who are new to the ufo topic 1980 01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:24,079 elon musk was insinuating 1981 01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:26,559 that people who take pictures of 1982 01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,520 anything that 1983 01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:30,480 appears to be a ufo the resolution is 1984 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:32,319 just really bad all the time which is 1985 01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:32,640 not 1986 01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:36,240 always the case um but anyway i just 1987 01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:36,559 said 1988 01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:40,960 tech than we do 1989 01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:43,839 no amount of tech we use can record them 1990 01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:44,319 well 1991 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:46,880 and et tech could circumvent our 1992 01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:48,160 attempts to record them 1993 01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:51,280 at all this portrayal is a washed up 1994 01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:52,640 cliche slash 1995 01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:55,119 stereotype using this graph to get 1996 01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:56,079 clicks shows how 1997 01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:57,280 ignorant you really are on the 1998 01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,559 phenomenon now um 1999 01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:02,400 i think some people thought it was just 2000 01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:05,119 trying to be a jerk to him however 2001 01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:07,920 i really feel like the ufo topic is kind 2002 01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:10,799 of a sacred topic at least to me it is 2003 01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:12,720 um it's extremely valuable to know more 2004 01:08:17,189 --> 01:08:15,359 about it and if you are a person that's 2005 01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:17,199 very high profile 2006 01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:20,880 just in any community worldwide um 2007 01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:23,040 you know you're recognizable you have 2008 01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:24,080 hundreds of thousands 2009 01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:28,080 of followers the the problem arises 2010 01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,520 with being well known 2011 01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,839 is that what you're doing is you're 2012 01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:36,560 going to influence them 2013 01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:39,520 not all of them but some do blindly 2014 01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:40,159 follow 2015 01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,719 individuals it doesn't matter who they 2016 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:44,640 are or what they do 2017 01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:47,040 people will do it and in addition to 2018 01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:47,679 that 2019 01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:49,920 they may not have the ability to 2020 01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:50,799 delineate 2021 01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:54,719 a joke from something that's not a joke 2022 01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:57,040 and this is really what's sort of unfair 2023 01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:58,000 about this tweet 2024 01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:01,040 is yes i get humor in fact i 2025 01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:03,359 probably joke more about things behind 2026 01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:04,319 the scenes 2027 01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:07,279 than you you would even guess with frank 2028 01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:08,400 all the time every 2029 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:10,400 everything is worth making fun of like 2030 01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:11,839 you know we we just do it 2031 01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,920 frank frank and i do this all the time 2032 01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:15,520 we just enjoy humor it's just something 2033 01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:16,319 we used to 2034 01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:18,080 blow off steve breaks up the day you 2035 01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:20,799 know yeah it does however 2036 01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,920 however um this is just a really old 2037 01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:25,520 joke we're tired of it 2038 01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:27,040 and i just wanted to speak out as a 2039 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,719 member of the ufo community and say that 2040 01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:30,080 elon musk 2041 01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:32,960 hey this is just a stupid joke like you 2042 01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:33,359 know 2043 01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,719 uh et's if because there's many 2044 01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:37,600 different ways people 2045 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:39,199 think about it if et's have come 2046 01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:40,560 hundreds of millions of years just to 2047 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,359 get here 2048 01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,759 or if they were there a second before in 2049 01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,359 their universe and here a second later 2050 01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:47,440 because of some porthole okay i won't go 2051 01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:48,719 down that rabbit hole 2052 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:51,600 you get the idea it doesn't matter the 2053 01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,560 point is 2054 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:54,880 if they are smarter than us which indeed 2055 01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:55,840 they could be 2056 01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:58,960 in some ways i hope they are 2057 01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:02,159 then why in the world would they allow 2058 01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:03,199 us to record them 2059 01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:09,270 the thing is they really don't have to 2060 01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:10,800 it could be at will that they don't want 2061 01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,679 us to 2062 01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:13,840 or it could be due to technological uh 2063 01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:15,440 advances that they have that are well 2064 01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:16,320 beyond 2065 01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:19,199 our ability to understand whatever but 2066 01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,080 anyway you get 2067 01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:23,120 you get what i'm saying and um so 2068 01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,640 that's basically what i said i don't 2069 01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:26,400 think it was a mind-blowing moment 2070 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:29,679 for anybody but it i will always defend 2071 01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,520 the ufo community in that respect 2072 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,360 but the stigma is still out there i 2073 01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,360 think you just can't worry about it and 2074 01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:37,920 you just have to go forward but yeah you 2075 01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:40,000 do see comments from high profile folks 2076 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,800 sort of 2077 01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:42,640 denigrating the subject saying there's 2078 01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,719 not much to it it's a bunch of nonsense 2079 01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,719 and then you've got the the people whose 2080 01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,640 jobs it is actually to take a closer 2081 01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:49,840 look at this type of thing 2082 01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:52,080 saying what they're saying uh uh in 2083 01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:54,400 public uh in an interview situation that 2084 01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:55,280 type of thing 2085 01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:58,800 uh you you would like to think that uh 2086 01:11:01,830 --> 01:11:00,640 an open-minded person would at least be 2087 01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:01,840 persuaded to be 2088 01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:04,560 a little bit even more open-minded on 2089 01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,280 the subject 2090 01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:07,520 but i honestly think what really the 2091 01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:09,520 reality of what really happened here 2092 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:12,239 with elon musk was i don't think it was 2093 01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:13,679 so much that he was actually 2094 01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:17,440 targeting the ufo slash et topic 2095 01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:19,280 so much as he was just trying to get you 2096 01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,800 know activity going because 2097 01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:23,199 one thing on on his profile is what i 2098 01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:24,560 mean on twitter 2099 01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,719 one thing elon musk is really really 2100 01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,080 good at 2101 01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,800 is maintaining activity on his twitter 2102 01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:32,000 at all times 2103 01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:33,679 when people need to understand about 2104 01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:35,040 elon musk is 2105 01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:38,320 he is a very unique individual in many 2106 01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:40,320 ways but one thing he's caught onto 2107 01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,600 in his uniqueness is he's caught on to 2108 01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:45,920 just keep activity going it doesn't even 2109 01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:46,960 matter really 2110 01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:50,000 what he says and he knows that as long 2111 01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:50,960 as he says 2112 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:53,840 something that way he can have the 2113 01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:54,880 clicks happening 2114 01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,320 it's a click-oriented um behavior that 2115 01:12:00,950 --> 01:12:00,000 he's created on his social media 2116 01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:00,960 platform 2117 01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:02,880 and i give him kudos for that because 2118 01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:04,560 he's caught onto that very simple-minded 2119 01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,199 trick it's 2120 01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:07,120 one of the oldest tricks in the book but 2121 01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:09,120 he gets it and it works for him 2122 01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,239 now one thing i do want to mention is um 2123 01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,920 going along you know just trying to 2124 01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:15,600 create activity on twitter 2125 01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,239 there is a really dark side to that and 2126 01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:20,159 i do want to just mention something very 2127 01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:20,960 briefly 2128 01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,679 there's a lot of high profile people in 2129 01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:25,199 the ufo community 2130 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:28,640 that squander their authoritative stance 2131 01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,400 on the ufo topic by saying extremely 2132 01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:35,120 meaningless things and what's 2133 01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:36,560 interesting is 2134 01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,080 and i'm not going to mention any names 2135 01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:40,800 but i see it all the time 2136 01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:43,840 when these so-called experts on the ufo 2137 01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:44,560 topic 2138 01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:46,880 say something and if you really just 2139 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:49,679 read it word by word or line by line 2140 01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:51,920 it doesn't mean anything it's devoid of 2141 01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:52,960 meaning 2142 01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:56,320 and again i just have the same argument 2143 01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:58,880 if you have followers do them a favor 2144 01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,480 say something that means 2145 01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,040 that is meaningful because if you see it 2146 01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:05,360 with an authoritative voice 2147 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:08,400 and i call you out on it i can i i would 2148 01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:09,760 hope you can explain yourself because 2149 01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,280 i've actually called 2150 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:13,440 some of these people out to demonstrate 2151 01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,800 what they really meant 2152 01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,400 when they were tried to reverse stance 2153 01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:18,159 on what the meaningless thing they said 2154 01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:18,800 about 2155 01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:21,040 you know disclosure pre and post 2156 01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,040 disclosure which i won't go into 2157 01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:25,440 or what does disclosure mean or the ufo 2158 01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:27,040 and et topic in general 2159 01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:28,719 and what they think we should do about 2160 01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,239 it in a commanding voice 2161 01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:32,480 when i call them out on it their 2162 01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:34,560 responses back 2163 01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:37,840 are usually even more less meaningful 2164 01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:38,320 than 2165 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:42,560 first started talking so 2166 01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:45,679 twitter is kind of is what it is it's a 2167 01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:46,159 very 2168 01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:49,120 truncated you have a real limitations as 2169 01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:49,600 far as 2170 01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:52,080 what you can type in at least per tweet 2171 01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:53,199 you know sometimes 2172 01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,360 i see people do you know five or six 2173 01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,280 tweets right in a row where they have 2174 01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:59,040 something a little bit more detailed to 2175 01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,320 say i've done it 2176 01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:02,560 occasionally by and large i don't really 2177 01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,960 spend a whole lot of time on twitter 2178 01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:06,719 other than that to sort of keep an eye 2179 01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:08,000 on uh 2180 01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:09,600 sometimes uh there are stories that get 2181 01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:11,199 posted over there and 2182 01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:13,840 it does happen that uh some higher 2183 01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,920 profile folks are more openly available 2184 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:17,120 you don't have to be 2185 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:18,960 friends with somebody to see what they 2186 01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:20,560 post all you have to do is follow them 2187 01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:20,880 so 2188 01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:23,199 well it's a different platform the limit 2189 01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:24,000 on twitter 2190 01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,080 is you think it used to be 167 2191 01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:29,120 characters maybe when it first started 2192 01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,080 but now it's like 280 characters look 2193 01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:34,159 let me put it this way 2194 01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:37,440 if you can't say something fairly 2195 01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:38,400 clearly 2196 01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:40,400 in under 300 characters which is 2197 01:14:46,630 --> 01:14:41,840 actually a lot 2198 01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:46,640 then don't tweet you 2199 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:48,000 how many characters have you just 2200 01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,320 babbled on over the last few minutes 2201 01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:52,560 thousands thousands you'd have to save 2202 01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:56,400 that stuff for facebook 2203 01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,199 but anyway yeah so i mean that's it it 2204 01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:01,280 was a really interesting week and uh 2205 01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:03,520 you know we've run on a little bit i was 2206 01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,480 considering 2207 01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,880 uh talking a bit more about a case that 2208 01:15:10,790 --> 01:15:08,480 uh dave beatty 2209 01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,800 uh has gotten from the nimitz encounters 2210 01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:12,080 has gotten involved with 2211 01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:13,760 he started up with that we talked about 2212 01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:15,600 a little bit going back last time he was 2213 01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:16,640 on the show 2214 01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:20,080 but this is a case involving the uss kid 2215 01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:22,560 and uh that was also picked up by the 2216 01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:23,600 mainstream media 2217 01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:25,040 uh the truth is i really don't have 2218 01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:26,880 anything to add on it except 2219 01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:29,199 you know it kind of is what it is so uh 2220 01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:31,120 no real analysis there it's uh great 2221 01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:33,040 that that dave's gotten that stuff out 2222 01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:35,679 uh it was uh covered and actually picked 2223 01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:36,560 up a little bit 2224 01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:39,440 by nbc news i saw it at one point at 2225 01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,960 least over on their website 2226 01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,480 so that was written and dave got his 2227 01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,080 credit so that was great stuff 2228 01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,800 so i did see that that's one you might 2229 01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:48,560 want to take a closer look at 2230 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,960 and aside from that i think that's about 2231 01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,480 it for now uh 2232 01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:55,199 well i'll go ahead so i just want to 2233 01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:55,600 take 2234 01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:58,320 maybe two or three minutes to explain 2235 01:16:02,790 --> 01:15:59,040 just a few 2236 01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,800 issues that has um plagued the ufo 2237 01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:04,080 community 2238 01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:06,800 and um so i'll just go ahead and say my 2239 01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:07,520 my little 2240 01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,280 okay keep it under 280 characters 2241 01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:14,000 oh you started my a little serious thing 2242 01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:14,400 there 2243 01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:16,080 it actually started that's funny i don't 2244 01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:18,840 know why but uh one of the 2245 01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:26,229 thank you right you would love that 2246 01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,360 wouldn't you 2247 01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:29,040 i could do it permanently you could kill 2248 01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:30,719 me if i did it 2249 01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,320 right just shoot it throw in the trash 2250 01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,800 um one of the main issues that has 2251 01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:38,560 plagued the ufo community throughout its 2252 01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:39,520 history 2253 01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:41,679 is we're searching for objectivity in a 2254 01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:44,159 controversial field of interest 2255 01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:46,560 this area of interest is both unifying 2256 01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,000 and polarizing 2257 01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:49,920 additionally part of the dilemma of the 2258 01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:51,600 discourse of the so-called disclosure 2259 01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:53,360 movement or even the idea of disclosure 2260 01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,159 itself 2261 01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:55,679 is everyone's definition of what 2262 01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:57,760 disclosure means to them is mixed 2263 01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,600 there is no streamlined definition that 2264 01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:01,520 clearly indicates what it is and what it 2265 01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:02,400 is not 2266 01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:04,159 the other challenge the ufo community 2267 01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:06,159 has faced for 70 years 2268 01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,560 is one does not have a degree 2269 01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,080 one does not have to have a degree or 2270 01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:13,600 certification of any kind 2271 01:17:18,630 --> 01:17:16,080 in order to be involved in the ufo uh 2272 01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,640 the research of the ufo or et topics 2273 01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:20,400 there are a lot of pros and cons to this 2274 01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:23,760 of course as a result of this kind of 2275 01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,000 community there are no strict protocols 2276 01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:28,239 or expectations regarding what one can 2277 01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:29,360 or cannot say 2278 01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:32,159 again there are pros and cons to that so 2279 01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,360 when someone says something that 2280 01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:35,360 disappoints someone the ufo community 2281 01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:37,199 declaring a commitment to a certain kind 2282 01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:39,040 of definition or perception that 2283 01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:40,800 involves ufo topic 2284 01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:43,600 all that happens as a result is either 2285 01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:45,120 we end up in a circular loop of 2286 01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:46,400 discussion 2287 01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:48,159 arguing or grand standing which ends 2288 01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:50,480 with nothing of real value to anyone 2289 01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:52,719 or we say something has value and is 2290 01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:53,840 worthy 2291 01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:56,080 of some kind of contribution to the ufo 2292 01:17:58,950 --> 01:17:57,280 community such as 2293 01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,960 here's a new way to identify something 2294 01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,960 with regards to the ufo et topic 2295 01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:02,719 forensically for example 2296 01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:06,159 or here's more evidence to pour over 2297 01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:08,000 never seen before so we can review it 2298 01:18:11,750 --> 01:18:10,320 and scrutinize it but one of the major 2299 01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:11,760 issues ufology has 2300 01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:14,080 always had is no matter how much 2301 01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:14,800 evidence 2302 01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,800 or something close to proof we obtain 2303 01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,960 regarding the ufoet topics 2304 01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:20,960 is it never makes headlines in major 2305 01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:23,120 media to the point where everyone is 2306 01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:24,640 caught up all at once 2307 01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:27,840 on for example the koiami aguadilla 2308 01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:30,960 tic tac phoenix lights cases socorro 2309 01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:33,920 or even less known or obscure ufo cases 2310 01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,400 um 2311 01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:36,880 in some cases like et related cases like 2312 01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:39,280 the travis walton pascagoula abduction 2313 01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,640 case or the flatwoods monster cases less 2314 01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,880 other less known cases are the abduction 2315 01:18:49,669 --> 01:18:46,320 of herbert shermer 2316 01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:49,679 on december 3rd of 1967. i think there 2317 01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:50,719 was another personal 2318 01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,080 favorite of mine which was a carl 2319 01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:54,480 higdon's case 2320 01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,360 wyoming an et related abduction there 2321 01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,880 my point here is if the general 2322 01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,480 population of the world isn't 2323 01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:05,520 following the historical or trending 2324 01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:08,880 ufo cases that have really good forensic 2325 01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:12,480 value and or witness evidence of a ufo 2326 01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:15,280 sighting or an et related case then that 2327 01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,320 means what 2328 01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:18,800 it means no one worldwide is ever on the 2329 01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:21,360 same page 2330 01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:24,560 and then we end up in the same old tired 2331 01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:26,239 loop we've always faced 2332 01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:28,480 that being only geeky researchers like 2333 01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:29,760 me and frank and 2334 01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,719 others that we know in the ufo community 2335 01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:34,719 end up really being on top of anything 2336 01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:35,600 of real value 2337 01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:38,239 evidence wise regarding these topics so 2338 01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:39,920 when these cases come up that catch the 2339 01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:41,280 eye of the public 2340 01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:44,400 for example from tucker carlson marco 2341 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:44,960 rubio 2342 01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:47,760 tom de long louis elizondo former 2343 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:49,760 senator harry reid christopher mellon 2344 01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,080 the 2345 01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:52,080 a former deputy assistant secretary of 2346 01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,840 defense for intelligence 2347 01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:56,080 or or anyone that is high profile 2348 01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:57,679 mentions and dangles 2349 01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:01,199 a few ufo-related famous ufo-related 2350 01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:02,560 cases here or there 2351 01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:04,719 the entire planet acts like these few 2352 01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:06,800 cases are the only ones the world has 2353 01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:07,920 ever heard of 2354 01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,880 or seen or been recorded or has evidence 2355 01:20:14,470 --> 01:20:12,080 of any kind 2356 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:14,480 these are the kinds of issues the ufo 2357 01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:15,360 community is 2358 01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:18,480 regularly plagued with none of the mass 2359 01:20:23,830 --> 01:20:20,719 media outlets ever bothered to cover 2360 01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:23,840 the extensive ufo-related work of a 2361 01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:27,040 nasa nasa research scientist like dr 2362 01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:28,239 richard haynes 2363 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,600 which he uh since the mid-1960s 2364 01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,360 that's how far back he goes regarding 2365 01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:35,520 nasa he actually studied uh 2366 01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,800 i think it was a topic of aviation and 2367 01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:40,880 always pilots that yeah he founded 2368 01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:42,239 narcotics 2369 01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:45,120 yeah and or jan aldrich's fine work on 2370 01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,639 project 1947 2371 01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,880 or the scientific coalition for uap 2372 01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:50,880 studies research on the aguadilla ufo 2373 01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:51,520 incident 2374 01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:54,560 or the tic tac cases their reports 2375 01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:57,040 the reports that they did on it nobody 2376 01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,040 ever finds out about those 2377 01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:01,199 because the mass media doesn't cover it 2378 01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:02,800 in the meanwhile the mass media and 2379 01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:03,920 general population 2380 01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,080 are wide-eyed about anything that comes 2381 01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:08,320 out regarding the ufo topic 2382 01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:10,880 regarding famous cases okay and this 2383 01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:13,199 entire cycle i've just described 2384 01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:16,080 continues ad nauseum while we all watch 2385 01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:17,920 it from the ufo community saying okay 2386 01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:20,400 these cases are not the first 2387 01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:23,199 nor the famous ones are not the first 2388 01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:24,480 nor are they probably going to be the 2389 01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:26,719 last ufos of unknown origin 2390 01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,960 and the fact is there are tons of great 2391 01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:30,400 ufo related cases 2392 01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:33,440 out there in the archive of mufon 2393 01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,280 and other now extinct or barely 2394 01:21:38,550 --> 01:21:37,199 surviving ufo related organizations 2395 01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:38,560 worldwide however 2396 01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:40,800 those archives are on online for you to 2397 01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:42,639 find those ufo cases 2398 01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:45,199 yeah what you're what you're talking 2399 01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:45,679 about 2400 01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:48,320 okay some of these some of these cases 2401 01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:50,239 are in the archives of libraries 2402 01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:54,080 um or universities having been donated 2403 01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:55,920 in mass 2404 01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:58,000 meaning like reports and whatever it is 2405 01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:59,600 articles whatever it is the individual 2406 01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:00,080 that 2407 01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,600 uh gathered all of these 2408 01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:05,920 amazing pieces of information regarding 2409 01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:07,600 ufo topic 2410 01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:09,920 and given to these uh places like 2411 01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:11,360 libraries or universities 2412 01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:13,199 by folks who want to pass the torch of 2413 01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:14,480 the ufo topic 2414 01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:18,159 onto someone or something somewhere 2415 01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:20,080 who cares about this topic as much as we 2416 01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:21,600 all do do you really 2417 01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,040 like do you get what i'm saying here 2418 01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:25,360 frank oh sure sure but i think it gives 2419 01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:27,199 us the opportunity you talk about well 2420 01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:29,199 it's geeks like us well yeah okay 2421 01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:31,120 we're really gonna dig in on this uh 2422 01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:32,639 because we are into it 2423 01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:35,760 and other people are not doing it like i 2424 01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:36,320 said it's 2425 01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,800 given us the opportunity uh other people 2426 01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,239 not finding things that 2427 01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,320 we've turned up here or that i've turned 2428 01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,920 up in my research or you might turn up 2429 01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:45,040 in your research 2430 01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:48,480 uh you know again the fact that it's new 2431 01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,880 that we turn up new stuff or maybe have 2432 01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:52,800 a new angle in terms of 2433 01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,520 analyzing uh this sort of material it's 2434 01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:57,280 our opportunity because we're saying 2435 01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,159 things here 2436 01:23:01,830 --> 01:23:00,159 we're finding things there uh we're 2437 01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:01,840 doing things over there 2438 01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:04,960 uh that other people aren't doing so 2439 01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:06,400 that's a good thing i don't i don't see 2440 01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:08,639 that as a bad thing i think it's a very 2441 01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:08,960 uh 2442 01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:11,440 okay okay i i think it's a very 2443 01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:12,960 egalitarian field 2444 01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:15,600 where you can you can jump in and you 2445 01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:16,639 can get involved 2446 01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:18,639 directly i thought it was uh one funny 2447 01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,400 thing sort of crossed my mind with that 2448 01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,639 tmz story and thinking about 2449 01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:24,960 uh you know they they do focus on uh 2450 01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:27,120 largely celebrity gossip and things like 2451 01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:28,000 that 2452 01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:30,159 well it's like i don't i don't normally 2453 01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,280 go to that website 2454 01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,120 uh for the simple reasons i can get 2455 01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:35,040 involved in the ufo community 2456 01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:37,040 and we can spend and waste an awful lot 2457 01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:39,199 of time uh talking about gossip involved 2458 01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:42,320 in ufos so you know there's that 2459 01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:45,440 okay so my point basically was 2460 01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:47,840 that mass media is covering the same old 2461 01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:48,800 tired 2462 01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:53,920 i don't mean that all the time okay yes 2463 01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:55,600 those cases are absolutely interesting 2464 01:24:01,030 --> 01:23:57,520 don't think i didn't research them i did 2465 01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,040 okay but and can we find out more yes 2466 01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:02,960 hopefully we can okay we're waiting for 2467 01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:04,239 june first 2468 01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,280 uh with baited breath however 2469 01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,199 these other cases i mentioned and 2470 01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:11,600 there's thousands there's literally 2471 01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:14,400 thousands of great ufo cases out there 2472 01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:14,960 that are 2473 01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:17,840 never ever covered by mass media and yes 2474 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,520 i totally get the idea wow this is a 2475 01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:20,880 great opportunity for us to cover 2476 01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,679 okay yes we do that we've done that but 2477 01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:24,480 i'm just 2478 01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:27,679 really tired of mass media ignoring all 2479 01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:28,719 the many other 2480 01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:32,159 great cases why because there's been 2481 01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:34,800 forensic investigators that have worked 2482 01:24:40,149 --> 01:24:36,880 on these cases for free 2483 01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:40,159 for many many years having gone uh 2484 01:24:44,070 --> 01:24:42,480 and paid their own gas money and their 2485 01:24:46,870 --> 01:24:44,080 own money for equipment 2486 01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:46,880 um gone across the u.s or around the 2487 01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:48,719 world to go interview people 2488 01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:51,840 and document all this stuff for what for 2489 01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:52,960 posterity 2490 01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:54,719 well because because they were into it 2491 01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:56,080 because they were into it the media 2492 01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:57,360 wouldn't cover it 2493 01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:01,199 and and the only reason why 2494 01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:04,800 that these these tic tac agudia stories 2495 01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:07,520 are being covered or go fast or gimbal 2496 01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:08,639 is because 2497 01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:11,679 the u.s cannot turn its cheek on it it 2498 01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:12,880 cannot get away from it 2499 01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:15,440 it cannot shirk its duty it has to 2500 01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:17,600 actually pay attention to these topics 2501 01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,280 that is the only reason why the mass 2502 01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:20,880 media is covering these topics 2503 01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,679 and not because they want to cover some 2504 01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,520 of the obscure cases i mentioned 2505 01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:28,080 which have a lot more evidence possibly 2506 01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:29,440 than what we're looking at here 2507 01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:31,360 and at least on the television and the 2508 01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,120 either the the network news 2509 01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:36,080 or the the cable news networks uh the 2510 01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:36,719 different ones 2511 01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:38,639 uh what uh what do they give i mean we 2512 01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:40,000 played five interviews 2513 01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:43,280 and i don't think one of them um 2514 01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:45,040 was longer than three or four minutes at 2515 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,480 the most so 2516 01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,560 they don't really give a lot of time and 2517 01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:50,400 they don't necessarily get into 2518 01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:53,760 a lot of the detail that uh you know we 2519 01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,239 uh 2520 01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:56,400 we want to know we what and that we 2521 01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:58,239 already know to a very large extent not 2522 01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:59,440 entirely but uh 2523 01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:01,760 to enough of an extent that uh we can go 2524 01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:03,440 into a lot more depths and i think we're 2525 01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:04,639 coming up on i think 2526 01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,639 a good solid hour and a half of just you 2527 01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:08,960 and me going back and forth no guests 2528 01:26:12,310 --> 01:26:10,000 involved so 2529 01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:12,320 there's that so the last thing i just 2530 01:26:15,510 --> 01:26:13,120 want to mention 2531 01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:15,520 is i'm really tired of people saying 2532 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:16,800 things like 2533 01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:19,600 oh well you know we never there's really 2534 01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:21,040 nothing on the ufo 2535 01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:23,679 topic or et topic there's no evidence 2536 01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:24,320 okay well 2537 01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:27,440 the only reason there's no evidence is 2538 01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:28,000 because 2539 01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:29,840 those people are not looking up that 2540 01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:31,199 topic and they're not doing their due 2541 01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:33,199 diligence and they're not researching it 2542 01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:36,480 that is the only reason they feel like 2543 01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:38,159 they have the right to say that 2544 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,480 is because they're too lazy to lift 2545 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,239 their lin index finger 2546 01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:44,400 and type on their keyboard to look up 2547 01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:45,280 the topic 2548 01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:47,040 it's just so much easier for them to say 2549 01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,480 something that's not true 2550 01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:50,880 and i will take your point a step 2551 01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:51,520 further 2552 01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:54,960 in that we do have evidence we've got 2553 01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:57,679 that remote sensing data remote sensing 2554 01:27:01,750 --> 01:27:00,400 is a form of physical evidence and what 2555 01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:01,760 they're not saying they're talking about 2556 01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:03,840 well we've got this sensor uh 2557 01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,440 information now we've got that 2558 01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:07,040 but they're not saying and they're very 2559 01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:09,040 specific in a very specific 2560 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:12,320 clear unambiguous way that that is in 2561 01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:12,880 fact 2562 01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:15,199 uh physical evidence so there's plenty 2563 01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:17,120 of evidence so no shortage of evidence 2564 01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:18,159 you know 2565 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:20,159 and by the way if anybody ever really 2566 01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:22,080 like if we do a live show we have chat 2567 01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,440 going 2568 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,760 i really do hope people do ask you about 2569 01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:27,280 you know real evidence because you 2570 01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:28,159 become 2571 01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:30,239 you know a really good expert regarding 2572 01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,480 that topic and being able to 2573 01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:35,120 uh rattle off a lot of data regarding it 2574 01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:37,280 i did an interview with a guy 2575 01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:39,199 maybe it was a couple of years ago now 2576 01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:41,199 and i i went on his show it was an 2577 01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,480 interview i did with him 2578 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:44,480 and i'd say yeah radar's physical 2579 01:27:47,270 --> 01:27:45,520 evidence and it was like 2580 01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:47,280 this was some kind of a revelation to 2581 01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:49,679 the guy and he does you know he does ufo 2582 01:27:54,470 --> 01:27:51,440 interviews and it's like 2583 01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:54,480 yeah i mean you just um i think some 2584 01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,960 folks 2585 01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:56,719 just have to adjust their thinking a 2586 01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,719 little bit and they can be 2587 01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:00,800 and get that maybe their their talking 2588 01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:02,239 points a little bit firmer 2589 01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:05,120 and boil down a little bit better and i 2590 01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:05,520 think 2591 01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:08,400 they can be much uh better advocates for 2592 01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:10,560 the ufo subject when they go out and 2593 01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:13,040 do interviews it's like hey rubio didn't 2594 01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:13,600 say it 2595 01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:16,719 saying it that 2596 01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:19,120 uh sensing data that remote sensing data 2597 01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:20,080 that they're talking about 2598 01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:22,000 that's physical evidence for ufos it's 2599 01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:23,679 not proof that they're e.t 2600 01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:26,800 but it's physical evidence for ufos yeah 2601 01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:29,280 so um really glad we were able to go 2602 01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:31,280 over that silly little topic regarding 2603 01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,760 elon musk's tweets 2604 01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:35,280 yeah we get into that kind of stuff 2605 01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:36,960 sometimes you know we get into that 2606 01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:38,159 stuff a little bit 2607 01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:40,960 uh not too often but i know you wanted 2608 01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:43,600 to get up on your high horse and uh 2609 01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:45,360 i just actually forgot to tell people 2610 01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,800 what he had actually said in the tweet 2611 01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:48,719 was strongest argument against uh 2612 01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:50,080 yeah yeah it was a meme i had it up 2613 01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:52,000 earlier so people have seen it so we got 2614 01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,880 a good look at it 2615 01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:54,480 really glad that we had this show thank 2616 01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:56,960 you yeah absolutely so i'm gonna wrap up 2617 01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:57,440 now 2618 01:29:02,470 --> 01:29:01,199 sometimes it's a a couple weeks maybe 2619 01:29:04,629 --> 01:29:02,480 it'll be uh next week 2620 01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:04,639 who knows uh maybe it'll be an interview 2621 01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:06,159 maybe there'll be enough news to talk 2622 01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:06,719 about 2623 01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:09,760 uh one thing again that we didn't get a 2624 01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:10,000 lot 2625 01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:11,679 of uh we didn't have the time to go into 2626 01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:13,600 any detail i think normally 2627 01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:15,679 uh we would have but we didn't this time 2628 01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:17,440 uh was this uss 2629 01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:19,840 kid case that did get some media 2630 01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:21,760 attention within the last week or so 2631 01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:24,960 again uh old pal dave beatty was the uh 2632 01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:26,960 the primary researcher on that to find 2633 01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,040 out about it in the first place and 2634 01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:31,280 some foyers were followed up with and uh 2635 01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:32,639 some interesting stuff there 2636 01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:34,400 i didn't get a chance to break that down 2637 01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:36,080 but it's well worth taking a closer look 2638 01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:36,400 at 2639 01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:39,440 i just go uss kid ufo 2640 01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:42,320 drone uh and again a couple of 2641 01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:43,840 mainstream outlets uh picked up the 2642 01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:44,719 story on that 2643 01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:46,080 so go take a look at that uh 2644 01:29:48,149 --> 01:29:47,679 unfortunately we didn't have time to get 2645 01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:48,159 to it 2646 01:29:51,910 --> 01:29:50,159 so uh chant uh let's uh are we good to 2647 01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:51,920 go we're ready to wrap up i think we did 2648 01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:52,560 okay 2649 01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:54,159 and i just really want to thank our 2650 01:29:57,910 --> 01:29:56,000 audience for uh you know 2651 01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:57,920 taking the time to listen to us because 2652 01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:59,760 you know um 2653 01:30:02,950 --> 01:30:01,199 if if they've actually listened to 2654 01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:02,960 multiple shows we've done 2655 01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:04,800 they'll hear us like you know really 2656 01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:06,480 giddy really happy sometimes we're a 2657 01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:07,280 little down 2658 01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:08,560 sometimes you sound a little bit too 2659 01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,040 skeptical or whatever but if you listen 2660 01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:13,280 to us in our entirety regarding all of 2661 01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:14,480 our shows 2662 01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:15,920 there's one thing that you will 2663 01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:18,159 definitely see that is a 2664 01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:20,480 common denominator between frank and i 2665 01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:21,280 and that is 2666 01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:23,360 we've always we might we might joke 2667 01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:24,719 around you know a little bit too much 2668 01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:25,520 sometimes maybe 2669 01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:27,920 no we never joke around too much no 2670 01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:30,320 there's times we have but anyway 2671 01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:33,120 one thing you will definitely notice is 2672 01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:34,880 uh frank and i take the uh 2673 01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:38,719 ufo uap topic very very seriously 2674 01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:40,560 and it's something that a lot of people 2675 01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:42,880 don't know this about me but frank does 2676 01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:46,960 i have actually spent 16 17 hour days 2677 01:30:50,550 --> 01:30:49,280 consistently just studying and 2678 01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:50,560 researching 2679 01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:53,600 the ufo topic and what does that mean 2680 01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:55,440 that means going into like the cia 2681 01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:57,040 archives or obscure 2682 01:31:00,790 --> 01:31:00,000 archives around the planet that from 2683 01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,800 countries that 2684 01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:02,639 you know you actually have to translate 2685 01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:04,000 what you're looking at 2686 01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,440 on igoogle and um collecting as much 2687 01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:08,960 data as possible 2688 01:31:13,990 --> 01:31:12,000 and then just collating it 2689 01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:14,000 and seeing if it's worth worthy of 2690 01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:15,120 researching 2691 01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:17,280 and then in addition to that i've also 2692 01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:19,040 spent a copious amount of time 2693 01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,880 researching and debunking 2694 01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:22,560 various conspiracies theories that 2695 01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:24,159 floated around the ufo community which i 2696 01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:25,920 spent about a year doing that 2697 01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:29,199 and um i i really got i all i can tell 2698 01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:29,760 you is 2699 01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:31,440 i spent a ton of time on that to the 2700 01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:33,520 point we actually had to take time off 2701 01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:35,760 but yes we get myopically focused on 2702 01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:37,600 this topic because we care about it 2703 01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:39,440 so if we sound very passionate about 2704 01:31:43,750 --> 01:31:41,440 what we're talking about that's why 2705 01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:43,760 there you go okay well i'm done i got 2706 01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:45,360 everything out i wanted to get out so uh 2707 01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:46,320 you got anything 2708 01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:48,000 well but i'm just going to cut you off 2709 01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:49,440 chant you'll keep going another half 2710 01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:50,480 hour okay 2711 01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:54,000 so thanks everybody and